Amir Efrati (TheInformation): > More than 92% of OpenAI employees say they will join Altman at Microsoft if board doesnt capitulate. Signees include cofounders Karpathy, Schulman, Zaremba. https://twitter.com/amir/status/1726680254029418972
Feels like OpenAI employees aren't so enthused about joining MSFT here, no?
Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
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#212Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
"few important people"? 95% of the company went with Altman. That's a popular vote if I have ever seen one.. Nokia was completely different, I doubt any of their regular employees supported Elop.
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#213Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
GPUs run on cash, not goodwill. AI researchers also run on cash -- they have plenty of options and an organization needs to be able to reward them to keep them motivated and working. OpenAI is only what it is because of its commercial wing. It's not too different from the Mozilla Foundation, which would be instantly dead without their commercial subsidiary. I would much rather OpenAI survives this and continues to th…
How is one commercial entity better than another?
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply ...aside from accusing Sam Altman of essentially lying to the board?
Fair point but a footnote given the amount of fall-out, that's on them and they'll have to retract that. Effectively they already did.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#216Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
How do we know the mission got thrown out a window? The board still, after days of intense controversy, have yet to clearly explain how Altman was betraying the mission. Did he ignore safety? Did he defund important research? Did he push forward on projects against direct objections from the board? If there’s a good reason, then let everybody know what that is. If there isn’t, then what was the point of all this?
When was the last time OpenAI openly released any AI?
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#217Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#218Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
To me, RIM circa 2008 would have been a far better acquisition for Microsoft. Blackberry was embedded in corporate world, the media loved it (Obama had one), the iphone and android were really new.
Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
#219Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…
okay, i finally understand how the world works. if it is important stuff, then it is necessary to write everything in a lowercase letters. what i understood from recent events in tech is that whatever people say or do, capital beats ideology and the only value that comes forth is through capital. where does this take us then? to a comment like this. why? because no matter what people think inside, the outside world i…
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#220I couldn’t make up a more ridiculous plot even if I tried. At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk got involved. It’s already ridiculous enough, why not.
Hey I've seen this one, it's a rerun https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/24/23654701/openai-elon-musk... - "But by early 2018, says Semafor, Musk was worried the company was falling behind Google. He reportedly offered to take direct control of OpenAI and run it himself but was rejected by other OpenAI founders including Sam Altman, now the firm’s CEO, and Greg Brockman, now its president."