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Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Chrome has been the new Internet Explorer for a bunch of years already.

And even people who lived the horror days of "We need to support IE6 because the client wants so" and "ActiveX is a good choice for web pages" are complacent.

Please, for the love of all that's good in the world, use ANYTHING but a Chromium-based browser if at all possible.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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What do you mean by "browsing" Youtube? Clicking new links for the purpose of entertainment? My post was only about playing videos.

Well, how do you get to the videos? How do you discover their links to pipe to mpv/yt-dl? One option is RSS (YouTube still supports it) subscribing to channels. Do you know of others?

I don't, i use Youtube for listening to music or livestreams that i already know the title of.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Oh, and they also falsely show "4K" in the video quality icon, but "accidentally" play a 720p or even worse quality stream. If you manually select the 4K stream quality, then and only then will YouTube deign to show 4K to you.

Wait, that's a Firefox-only issue ?!

No, it does it on Chrome too.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Chrome have been the IE6 situation all over again for a while now, except this time it's possibly too late to walk back. They are pretty much done taking over the standard.

To be fair, the IE6 problem wasn’t just massive usage, it was massive usage plus complete stagnation. Chrome has high but not massive usage, and it hasn’t stagnated. It has a separate problem though: the lack of stagnation is actually a drive towards Google’s somewhat unhealthy vision for the web.

People keep forgetting that Google is an ad company first, everything else just supports that.

And what's better for distributing ads on the internet then controlling the software people use to view said ads - the browser.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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I'd love to see real competition to YouTube. I'm afraid this seems not, the UX isn't great, homepage is useless, you need to click on Browse content then enter some keywords on a blank page, search results limited to 2 items and then you need to click on "Display more videos". I might be to used to youtube homepage, for me it's perfect I get videos right away and suggestions are good. I'm pretty sure this project, Ma…

Please send this to the Peertube developer. Consider also that until recently it's likely that having videos load fast on peer2peer and adding features like streaming likely had a higher priority than interface polishing. But you might be asking for something impossible : the focus is on the different servers, and having a "suggested videos" page is seen as an anti-feature because it involves making an "algorithm", a…

Like Mastodon, Peertube should not aim to "Do everything people think will be good to get audience". It should create a philosophy.

I’m quite sure that lot and lot of people are tired by all those algorithmic suggestions. People are sad to see creators doing videos to get likes/subscribers/views instead of really creating.

This is a new model. And the winners of the old models will either adapt or not be winners any more. And that’s good if the premise is that the old model is broken in the first place.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Buy a movie on YT or DVD, and then... watch a torrented version? This isn't the future we were promised, but it sure is the future we have.

> Buy a movie on YT or DVD, and then... watch a torrented version? in which case, why buy it at all? A torrent isn't going to load as fast as what you paid YT for.

>A torrent isn't going to load as fast as what you paid YT for.

Unless you want to rewind the video without it re-buffering...

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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This is the way. I really don't understand why any technically proficient user would willingly use any of the official YouTube frontends. You get bombarded with ads, you're constantly tracked and experimented on, and your behavior is used to improve their algorithms in order to keep you on the site for as long as possible. It's a hostile user experience, just like most of the mainstream web. Whenever possible, I sugg…

Because using the website is a better experience. None of those tools worked with Sponsorblock last time I tried, for one. I don't want to yt-dlp every video, Piped and Invidious both have awful frontends in comparison, even the Newpipe dev admitted to using Vanced at some point, and yt-dlp needs some massaging to get the right video quality (and it can't download some videos at all). If any of your solutions were be…

https://github.com/po5/mpv_sponsorblock

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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I’ve also noticed mysterious buffering in the iOS app for YouTube for at least a few months. Even on a Google Fiber connection many videos will take a number of seconds to start, and sometimes buffer in the middle. I also have YT Premium, so anti ad blocking shouldn’t come into the picture. Videos load right away in Safari though.

Delete the iOS app and install the Vinegar Safari extension. It will replace the hostile video player with a native HTML5 element. I never see any ads, I can select the stream quality, and Picture-in-Picture works as my OS intended it to.
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