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Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Is anyone else unable to get through this capture page? Every time it comes up I end up doing countless captures, clicking not a robot, round and round, never get through.

This happens if you're using Cloudflare DNS: https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ (Sounds like iCloud private relay may do the same for the same reasons).

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Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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post #150

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Sweden appears to have a gun pipeline from the Balkans, while in Germany illegal firearms aren't as prevalent (as of yet). Statistics on knife killings would paint a different picture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...

What are you trying to say?

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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@pretext, @dang.

This sort of content goes against the guidelines, offers nothing of interest to the broader hacker community, invites the wrong sort of people to post and offers no additional insightful or new information to the discourse.

I think those submitting need to ask if they are making this place better or worse.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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That's quite the corkscrew you've turned yourself into just to say you don't trust Muslims. If you really believe it then just say it.

Why do we think religion is such a sacred cow (no pun intended)? Why is criticizing a religion any different from criticizing let say, capitalism and billionaires?

Basically we decided to grandfather in ideas that don't really have a place in a modern liberal society.

With that said, I have no issues with reformed muslims that keep the community/"civilized" cultural aspects of Islam, but yes, of course i'm suspicious of anyone who thinks that they are ordered by god to something (and that's true to all religions)

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Unfortunately everywhere in the Western world there seems to be denialism about this. And I'm actually legitimately afraid to actually voice that opinion in-person. I can vent here anonymously. But in the circles I'm in in San Francisco, I wouldn't dare suggest that certain migrants may not be compatible. There could personal, social, career impacts. You're automatically branded a xenophobe of some kind.

Well, isn’t it some kind of xenophobia? Saying that some “types” of outsiders are bad news full stop and should be kept outside else they’ll ruin the country is at least xenophobia adjacent, no matter how true you think it may be (probably unsurprisingly, I disagree on it being true, but that’s beside the point).

Doesn't being labeled a phobia strictly require the fear to be irrational in nature? Being afraid of an approaching train while standing on a train track isn't "train phobia", for example.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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While Sweden absolutely can be much stricter with background checks, in my experience in Scandinavia, y'all are racist jerks. I'm a brown guy who's grown up in North America their entire life, and day-to-day conversations with people there suck. There absolutely seems to be a mentality that if you don't fit a specific trope you can't be Swedish. No amount of token representation in Scandinavian TV will change that. T…

Very true. I can see what you are referring to. Even as a very successful law-abiding "expat" I could not stand the tribalism and extreme unconscious racism in my workplace and the society in general. As you said they think all foreigners are children or stupid and they don't respect your knowledge. Life there made me depressed, so I ran away in less than a year and living life now in Ireland. Not blaming the Swedes themselves, they're free to think whatever they like or be arrogant or whatsoever but blaming the false picture and narrative they draw about the country. If you don't respect or want people to live and contribute to your society then don't have a misleading policy of tolerance and integration.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Hungary and Slovakia, the only European countries that haven't allowed illegal immigration in, are at the bottom of that chart, while Sweden is getting rekt... Legal immigration is of course fine and necessary, as long as the state and socials systems can assimilate it... (Japan is a good example). But articles like this show concerning data points in western countries with uncontrolled migratory policies.

>haven't allowed illegal immigration

How do you allow something legally that is illegal? If you allow it, it is not illegal. If you don't, you haven't allowed it.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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I've been predicting a rise in numbers of 'good gangs' in the west for years now. Of course it must start with a rise in bad gangs first. I believe we're heading towards anarchy. The law just doesn't serve the majority anymore.

Exactly this. It’s not even a secret, quite a few intelligence and defense agencies have published reports in this issue. These agencies even intentionally using this process to destabilize target countries first. Based on what I’ve read the agencies haven’t fully recognized that it will eventually come for everyone, though I have seen that written as a scenario. It’s likely effective state agencies will continue to develop novel funding sources in preparation, and the transition will be cleaner in countries where they’re successful. Your local district paying a monthly fee for the FBI’s security plan would be a better choice than a gang style security startup.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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I grew up in Sweden, moved around a bit in Europe and lately came back.

What worries me about the country is not primarily gang criminality, but the general degradation of everything that was once good about Swedish society.

Probably still better than a lot of places. Immigrants who come here often praise the system, how well everything works here; but they have no idea how well it used to work.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Yes, because it is well know that Mohammad urged Muslims to create criminal gangs and start dealing drugs... Sorry, but what sort of stupid nonsense worldview do you have? There are certainly immigrants with non-western values and also immigrants who are criminals but why are you mixing these two demographics together? If anything the ones dealing drugs are likely to be the most westernized.

This is not a racial or a religious thing. It's a cultural thing. There are migrants from the same countries that integrated well. The problem is mostly with the "asylum seekers" who never wanted to integrate.

Is that the problem? Do you have any evidence for that belief? Or are you just throwing it out there based on a feeling or hunch?
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