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Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by cbsks »

ggm wrote: post #129

So hear me out, I have this crazy idea. For all the people who can't afford OTT services like hbo and Netflix and prime and apple tv, how about we remove all the excess IP overhead and send the mp4 over broadcast RF using a band like 700mhz from local hills or if need be make towers. We can pay by watching ads or something. I mean sure, call me crazy, imagine everyone having to watch the news and movie at the same ti…

I only get 1 channel at my location: https://www.fcc.gov/media/engineering/dtvmaps

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by ghaff »

chongli wrote: post #138
pianoben wrote: post #128

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> cancelling after you've binge watch the shows you're interested in comes with no penalty. ...for now. We'll certainly see these kinds of shenanigans before too much longer. Take ads. They're creeping in to paid subscriptions now - despite the fact that an allure of online streaming is that you can pay not to see them. Where there's the possibility of a revenue play, it will happen eventually.

There’s a ceiling on how much pain they can put people through. Too much, and it’s back to piracy. That’s the difference now. Back in the cable days people didn’t have that option.

There's a ceiling but I'm not sure an annual subscription is that. And if a random person feels they have to pirate a random show because they don't care about anything else on a given service, that's in the noise.

I'm pretty sure the percentage of people doing the binge/subscription change dance is pretty small.

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by scarface_74 »

firesteelrain wrote: post #144
scarface_74 wrote: post #126

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Really? Only power users can search on an iPhone and click on a link and go to the TV app or is it only power users who know how to subscribe and cancel a subscription? And only power users search Google for “Orange is the New Black” and click on “How to Watch”?

Yes, the interfaces are clunky, different and confusing. That’s why people despite the cost eventually liked cable because it is an inclusive bundle.

Well, there is evidence that you are incorrect seeing both the published growth in streaming services and the decline of the number of people who have cable…

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by ghaff »

hadlock wrote: post #130
Osiris wrote: post #19

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“Huge cable bills” - we’re already back there. Netflix is $23, Apple TV just increased to $10c Disney+ is now $14, Hulu is $20, Max is $16, Paramount is $10, Peacock is $6. You can easily spend $100 /mn on streaming services.

How much TV do you watch??? If we're lucky we can squeeze 90 minutes a day in before bed. We have netflix, get prime video free with prime, and now that we have a toddler, we have Disney+. That's about $40 but there are NO ADS. If it's not on Netflix of Prime (or Disney+) we just don't watch it. There aren't enough hours in the day to go explore random series on Hulu, Paramount, Peacock. HBO Max has been a fucking di…

I'm in the same boat. I maybe average an hour per day. I probably subscribe to at least one more service than I would if I were really optimizing. There's very little that I feel that I really need to watch. And I can always buy a la carte or even buy a DVD. I do without live TV but that's OK. I canceled my cable TV when I realized I hadn't watched anything on my TiVo in over two months.

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by Mindwipe »

hotnfresh wrote: post #32
jmbwell wrote: post #15

The fragmentation is both a flaw and a feature. It means we have diversity in media vendors, at the cost of a pretty high cognitive load to just watch something… which app is it on? What’s the account login? Search the device main search, then go to each app and do its own individual search. All while dodging ads and autoplay and “what’s new” and “for you.” It sucks for users. But it also sucks for developers, who ha…

> The fragmentation is both a flaw and a feature It’d be purely a feature if we banned shared ownership of distribution and production, like we did with movie studios and movie theaters for decades.

No it wouldn't. The distribution businesses would still want to buy things exclusively from the production businesses.

It would literally make no difference whatsoever.

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by [deleted] »

scarface_74 wrote: post #150
Eisenstein wrote: post #147

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That's correct. You have it nailed down. Any regulations that can be conceptualized are exactly what you say they are. We decided to make child labor illegal so now there are no children working on family farms, no children working in their family stores, and everyone under 18 is not allowed to work at all. We mandated safety in workplaces so now every person has to wear a respirator and a hard hat even in office job…

I am still waiting where do you draw the line and tell someone that they can’t sell the content that they produce on thier own website?

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Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by Eisenstein »

scarface_74 wrote: post #150
Eisenstein wrote: post #147

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That's correct. You have it nailed down. Any regulations that can be conceptualized are exactly what you say they are. We decided to make child labor illegal so now there are no children working on family farms, no children working in their family stores, and everyone under 18 is not allowed to work at all. We mandated safety in workplaces so now every person has to wear a respirator and a hard hat even in office job…

I am still waiting where do you draw the line and tell someone that they can’t sell the content that they produce on thier own website?

You got an answer two comments up that you ignored.

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by scarface_74 »

Eisenstein wrote: post #158
scarface_74 wrote: post #150

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I am still waiting where do you draw the line and tell someone that they can’t sell the content that they produce on thier own website?

You got an answer two comments up that you ignored.

You didn’t come up with concrete guidelines for when the content creator should not be allowed to sell content on their own site. Are we also going to block foreign content owners from selling their content to US citizens?

You haven’t thought through the consequences of giving the government more power in limiting what people can do on the web.

Re: TV: Now What?

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Post by foobiekr »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #116
foobiekr wrote: post #31

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The Jellyfin user experience would be a ton better if the client app for the iphone/ipad actually took advantage of local playback instead of relying on transcoding. Random seeks, rewinds, and especially subtitles timing are all better if the client is just accessing a file stream. This is especially true as the codecs change and the on-NAS GPUs fall behind due to the lifecycle differences.

Are you using SwiftFin? It is much better than the standard Jellyfin iOS app, I’ve never had any problems with it. Shoutout to the FinAmp app for music, too.

This is awesome, no, I was not. Excellent suggestion.
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