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Is the solution to have easily-replaceable USB sockets?
Or standardizing USB-XLR. People would complain about the price of the cables, the size of the cables, and the size of the devices. Small is fragile, and fragile should be replaceable.
Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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It sounds like you're at the intersection of "tiny", "multiple network ports", "multiple M.2 drives", and "dedicated gpu". I wouldn't be surprised if that's a rare combination.
Could do without the dGPU given APUs. I don't think the rest of that intersection is rare at all for workstations and desktops.
Either way, if you're using an APU then that frees up an x16 PCIe slot, which on many motherboards can be adapted into 4 M.2 slots. That should get you plenty of networking.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Micro-USB and USB-C receptacles are both designed for a minimum rated lifetime of 10,000 The idea that micro-USB and USB-C are supposed to be equally durable is the wrongest thing I've read all day. Frankly, mini-USB is the single most delicate connector I've ever used. Other than a couple PDAs, I never owned a single mini-USB device those receptacle didn't end up breaking off the board.
Mini is quite fine I thing you are mixing it up with micro.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Personally I think these numbers are fabricated horseshit, drafted by some engineer behind a desk running endless simulations. The USB industrial complex made the same claims with micro-USB vs mini-USB; and are now doing it again with Type-C. My empirical evidence: I've now had to replace two laptop motherboards due to a (mechanically) failed USB-C port. Guess what I haven't had to do in 25 years? Replace a failed US…
Guess what I haven't had to do in 25 years? Replace a failed USB-A socket. Ever. USB-A connectors are robust enough that you can't really pull them out by the cable. You have to pull the connector, which means you always pull them straight out. USB-C cables are smaller so some people yank the wire part of the cable instead of the connector, leading to a shearing force on the socket, which breaks it over time. Broken…
After using GPIB connectors (with huge cables attached to them) for some time, i tend to dissagree.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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If you wanted to have quick insert connection you could just not tighten the screws. I almost never tightened the screws, but it was good on monitors which were pivoting. I am writing this on a screen where the HDMI connector pops out if a even touch it.
Just tighten one of them, its what i do half the time
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#336My experience has shown that USB C connectors are far more fragile than A, and every time I plug one in, for some reason the fit just feels vague and unsatisfying. An A plug, when you get it the right way, slides in solidly. As others have mentioned, C seems to have been designed to be the smallest possible, which makes sense for mobile devices, but not for a desktop and its peripherals.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#337My experience has shown that USB C connectors are far more fragile than A, and every time I plug one in, for some reason the fit just feels vague and unsatisfying. An A plug, when you get it the right way, slides in solidly. As others have mentioned, C seems to have been designed to be the smallest possible, which makes sense for mobile devices, but not for a desktop and its peripherals.
Same here. I've experienced flaky connections with several USB-C ports, and sometimes the port itself gets dislodged. I've had devices RMA'd because of it. Nowadays I'm very careful when plugging in USB-C, doing my best to not pull on the cable, etc. It's overall a worse UX than with USB-A, and being reversible doesn't make up for it. Then you have the mess of protocols and standards that use the connector, where I n…
Then you’ll need to only care about the wattage rating when charging devices. Seems like future for me.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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> yes, connectors got much better in the past decades Really? How is e.g. the HDMI connectors "better" than the VGA connectors? VGA connectors seems far more robust to me. Same with d-sub mouse connectors. I guess the signal rating is better now but the old ones didn't need high frequency capabilities.
VGA connectors were incredibly irritating to deal with, especially since so many of them were equipped with smooth screwing bolts with very little area to spin them with your fingers. I for one don't miss this.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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You need a PCI card NIC anyway for when Realtek introduces another high throughput triggered bug in their driver and the motherboard NIC becomes useless.
If you're getting a motherboard with multiple NICs, it's probably not limited to lowest cost NICs, so Intel is on the table. (Although, I'm still not sure if they got their 2.5g NICs to work?) Dual NIC boards with AMD sockets does seem like a niche unfulfilled, though. There's some options on the Intel side though, something like ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax might work if you compromise on CPUs.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#340Now multiply this circuitry by 6-10 ports...