Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce

Post by s1artibartfast » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 3:23 AM UTC

RetpolineDrama wrote: post #105

gkoberger wrote: post #42

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Three people resigned yesterday: Jakub Pachocki, the company’s director of research; Aleksander Madry, head of a team evaluating potential risks from AI, and Szymon Sidor, a seven-year researcher. I know a good number of OpenAI people, and every single person I know is supportive of Sam. (This may be selection bias, of course, but there are a large number of people who are on Sam's side in all of this) Even if this w…

>I know a good number of OpenAI people, and every single person I know is supportive of Sam. FWIW: I spend an insane amount of money with OpenAI each month, more than the average income in the US. I'm not a Fortune 500 or anything, but I emailed my OpenAI enterprise account rep and let them know if this ends with Altman _not_ the CEO I'm terminating our account. I had always had "alternatives" on my list of to-dos, a…

Post by s1artibartfast » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 3:25 AM UTC

meowtimemania wrote: post #45

globamel wrote: post #29

This seems like BS that the Altman camp is feeding to the media. I very much doubt a single engineer or scientist would side with him and leave with him - most likely it's his cronies he put up in other executive positions. However, if you check their backgrounds, none of them have any meaningful experience pre-openAI - I am skeptical any would actually leave their opportunity of a lifetime.

Are engineers compensated with cash? I wonder if the Sam Altman version of OpenAI is more lucrative for employees than the alternative OpenAI. So as a result of the recent changes, there is an employee exodus to places with greater compensation

Post by Jedd » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 3:30 AM UTC

api wrote: post #44

This whole thing is gross. The sycophantic worship of Sam is gross and the paranoid AI safety people are insane. The singularity cultists are also insane. What happened? I remember when most of the people in this industry were at least okay. A little weird but okay. Of course judging by social media it’s a microcosm of the rest of society. People are utterly losing their minds everywhere. It’s both scary and amusing.

Post by Chamix » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 3:40 AM UTC

andrewfromx wrote: post #56

api wrote: post #44

This whole thing is gross. The sycophantic worship of Sam is gross and the paranoid AI safety people are insane. The singularity cultists are also insane. What happened? I remember when most of the people in this industry were at least okay. A little weird but okay. Of course judging by social media it’s a microcosm of the rest of society. People are utterly losing their minds everywhere. It’s both scary and amusing.

i feel the same way api but I did watch this entire thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaTRHFaaPG8 and now I can't stop thinking about Eliezer is so smart, smarter than me, should I listen?

Post by naveen99 » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 3:50 AM UTC

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #110

ekianjo wrote: post #50

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There is no no compete agreement with Altman? How is that possible?

As everyone else has mentioned, there is no such thing in CA, but you can sue if employees reveal company secrets to their new employer. OpenAI would probably have a strong case if they suddenly released a copycat product soon after leaving.