What happens at 5:01? The servers blow up?
"The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP"
Source?
Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
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Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Microsoft has said they'll withhold cloud computing credits. source please?
"...accept that their situation was untenable through a combination of mass revolt by senior researchers, withheld cloud computing credits from Microsoft, and a potential lawsuit from investors." https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/18/openai-in...
I think we need to read this carefully.
"Venture capital firms holding positions in OpenAI’s for-profit entity have discussed working with Microsoft and senior employees at the company to bring back Altman"
"The playbook, a source told Forbes would be straightforward: make OpenAI’s new management, under acting CEO Mira Murati and the remaining board, accept that their situation was untenable through a combination of mass revolt by senior researchers, withheld cloud computing credits from Microsoft, and a potential lawsuit from investors"
This is not saying that Microsoft has threatened to withhold the compute credits. It is saying that VC firms are hoping to use that as a strategy for force their hand. Microsoft may or may not agree to this.
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, these people are insane cultists who genuinely believe that they’re about to create a God. They’ve been very explicit about this. Not that they couldn’t be lying, but I’m not sure Occam’s razor would suggest that given their long history of public statements on the topic.
AGI is IMO the biggest pipe dream (scam may be too strong a term) in computing. It’s perpetually “10 years away.” I remember when a group working on “AGI” spoke at my university (oof, 21 years ago at this point) and all the talk then was “yep, we’ve totally cracked the code on this thing, it’s just that computers are too slow at the moment. But in 5-10 years, watch out.” I’ve always felt fundamentally that if you don…
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Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#94As you're watching this whole episode where no one can figure out what an organization worth tens of billions of dollars is going to be on Monday morning, remember: Silicon Valley businesspeople are the smartest, most competent, and most innovative people in America - if not the world - and deserve their personal net worth because none of us could have handled this better.
deserved_trust_and_deference >= ChatGPT.answer()
— OpenAI/Wall Street, definitely
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#95As you're watching this whole episode where no one can figure out what an organization worth tens of billions of dollars is going to be on Monday morning, remember: Silicon Valley businesspeople are the smartest, most competent, and most innovative people in America - if not the world - and deserve their personal net worth because none of us could have handled this better.
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Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it is not a dupe, this is hidden in a different discussion
It's the topcomment of the discussion of the same article which is itself updated with that same information. That submission is on the FP.
That discussion is based on the earlier version of the article which has a different headline. This is a new piece of information that is significant and should be surfaced.
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#97This whole thing is gross. The sycophantic worship of Sam is gross and the paranoid AI safety people are insane. The singularity cultists are also insane. What happened? I remember when most of the people in this industry were at least okay. A little weird but okay. Of course judging by social media it’s a microcosm of the rest of society. People are utterly losing their minds everywhere. It’s both scary and amusing.
This is what happens when you have people trying to change the world. Opinions make people weird. If you want to avoid weirdness, just have a boring business that tries to make money by any means necessary.
They laughed at Galileo, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown, etc.
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it is not a dupe, this is hidden in a different discussion
It's the topcomment of the discussion of the same article which is itself updated with that same information. That submission is on the FP.
Top comments aren’t stable. Just give it a few minutes to reach obscurity, or bounce back again some tens of minutes later.
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#99What happens at 5:01? The servers blow up?
That's how viruses work
Re: Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce
#100This whole thing is gross. The sycophantic worship of Sam is gross and the paranoid AI safety people are insane. The singularity cultists are also insane. What happened? I remember when most of the people in this industry were at least okay. A little weird but okay. Of course judging by social media it’s a microcosm of the rest of society. People are utterly losing their minds everywhere. It’s both scary and amusing.
> AI safety people are insane
maybe, but are they right?
by definition we are already doing the Skynet. as software ate the world we kinda forgot to add QA to the mix (economic necessity just means endless dark backlogs are where the exploding complexity goes to die)
and now we are doing it with even more klunky jury rigged crazy probabilistic shit. the chances of systemic ooppsiies are increasing.
yes, I agree, LLMs with this small contexts are very unlikely to move the needle, but we are working day and night on amplifying whatever effects it can and will have on our future. (not to mention that the AI-powered corporate hellscape achievement is already out of Pandora's box since everyone and their dog started using "data driven" fraud detection shit.