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TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
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Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a shallow take. How about: people learned about the situation between Palestine and Israel and root for human rights and ability to live in safety.
The entire conflict has been a staging ground for juvenile takes. From people demanding one side agree to a ceasefire that the other side never even offered to others calling for indiscriminate attacks on civilians on both sides. At best it is a lot of tough talk from ignorant people with zero skin in the game. The IDF and Hamas are just going to do whatever they think gives them maximum advantage while the world rem…
The world has devolved into juvenile takes.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that, while young people have been more pro-Palestine for a long time, historically a much smaller percentage were immersing themselves for hours a day in increasingly sensationalist, often misleading pro-Palestinian content; there historically was far less of an incentive to produce or disseminate it. So we quickly go from “pro-Palestine” to “pro-Hamas” to “pro-Osama Bin Laden” to “holocaust denial”.…
Israel is bombing and murdering thousands of Palestinians. That is why people are supporting them, not an algorithm "problem".
Tiktok has a very real algorithm problem that pushes terrorism & antisemitism to millions of people. They have started to crack down since the Osama thing, but prior to that tiktok refused to remove hate and calls for violence from their platform.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Israel is bombing and murdering thousands of Palestinians. That is why people are supporting them, not an algorithm "problem".
Why do teenagers care about this particular tragedy and not Syria or any of the horrors in Africa? Surely it can’t be the scale of killing since there are far worse civilian death tolls in conflicts around the world.
at least because one is one is cared more about by the media than the other. The Syrian stuff has always been a "side story" even though it's been terrible and ongoing for some time.
The Syrian stuff really started during a different media era.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#65It’s not just young teens generally: my wife is involved in left-wing Jewish organizations in the United States and young Jews are increasingly more skeptical of Israel’s importance to their Jewish identity. I wouldn’t say it’s quite a majority at this point but it’s a sizable enough chunk that they’re starting to become noticed by mainstream media outlets.
The last time that Israel was seriously threatened by the Arab countries was in the Yom Kippur War of 1973. Anyone old enough to remember that clearly is also old enough to retire. Since then the pattern has been that Israel retaliates massively to losses of a handful of people — until October 7 at least. If your understanding of the situation starts in medias res like that it's practically impossible to have sympathy for the Israeli argument that they live under the constant threat of destruction.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a shallow take. How about: people learned about the situation between Palestine and Israel and root for human rights and ability to live in safety.
The entire conflict has been a staging ground for juvenile takes. From people demanding one side agree to a ceasefire that the other side never even offered to others calling for indiscriminate attacks on civilians on both sides. At best it is a lot of tough talk from ignorant people with zero skin in the game. The IDF and Hamas are just going to do whatever they think gives them maximum advantage while the world rem…
> while the world remains hands-off
The world is not hands-off right now. Or specifically, there's a number of countries involved in effectively helping Israel's aggression.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#67How could any empathic person not be pro-5.2 million refugees? Downvote me to death, I don't care, but have the courage to explain why you're downvoting.
If Canada surprise attacked your hometown and killed your entire family would you have empathy when the United States declared all civilians must clear out of Montreal before a retaliatory strike takes place? It’s amazing how the slaughter of innocents is justified because they were being oppressed. If the Japanese in internment camps massacred the nearby town would you have empathy for them then when they were punished or would you say well look at what the US did! It put them in camps. They had no choice.
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#68How could any empathic person not be pro-5.2 million refugees? Downvote me to death, I don't care, but have the courage to explain why you're downvoting.
That's not an argument, it's an emotional appeal. Hence downvoting.
And the other upvoted commenters saying the refugee (their intl-recognized status) population are terrorists, is that just cold facts rather than emotion?
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Israel is bombing and murdering thousands of Palestinians. That is why people are supporting them, not an algorithm "problem".
Ww2 Japan was bombed by the United States and thousands died after they launched a surprise attack which killed thousands of Americans including hundreds of civilians. Palestine launched a surprise attack killing thousands and now they face the same thing.
Terrible example, since the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also extremely unethical
Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Care” about a tragedy is entirely meaningless. Protest of your government’s policies to perpetuate a tragedy is slightly more meaningful. Not by much, granted. But slightly more.
Never saw a single protest when Obama was dropping a bomb every 20 seconds in 2016. I guess the noble peace prize made it okay.
“I don’t think people should care about government funded genocide now, after all they didn’t care before” isn’t really the dunk you think it is.