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TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by lalajollyton »

op00to wrote: post #30
lalajollyton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel is bombing and murdering thousands of Palestinians. That is why people are supporting them, not an algorithm "problem".

Why do teenagers care about this particular tragedy and not Syria or any of the horrors in Africa? Surely it can’t be the scale of killing since there are far worse civilian death tolls in conflicts around the world.

Probably because their president isn't on tv endorsing those horrors, funding them with their tax dollars and in general having their mainstream media champion them.

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by op00to »

tracer4201 wrote: post #23
xyzelement wrote: post #16

It’s about the same as saying “kids just want to drink Tide pods nowadays.” There’s definitely something wrong with kids who do it but you can’t deny that TikTok is where it gets coordinated. If your kid is on TikTok all day and gets all their information there, you can’t really separate their belief from the contents they see.

> It’s about the same as saying “kids just want to drink Tide pods nowadays.” There’s definitely something wrong with kids who do it Supporting Palestinians is like drinking Tide pod? WOW, what an incredibly inhumane and racist take.

I don’t think that’s what the parent poster meant at all. They are comparing the people who complain about tide pods to the people who complain about kids seeing pro-Palestinian content on TikTok.

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by evantbyrne »

viraptor wrote: post #18
apwell23 wrote: post #11

makes sense. ppl root for the underdog.

That's a shallow take. How about: people learned about the situation between Palestine and Israel and root for human rights and ability to live in safety.

The entire conflict has been a staging ground for juvenile takes. From people demanding one side agree to a ceasefire that the other side never even offered to others calling for indiscriminate attacks on civilians on both sides. At best it is a lot of tough talk from ignorant people with zero skin in the game. The IDF and Hamas are just going to do whatever they think gives them maximum advantage while the world remains hands-off.

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by insanitybit »

throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #27

How could any empathic person not be pro-5.2 million refugees? Downvote me to death, I don't care, but have the courage to explain why you're downvoting.

That's not an argument, it's an emotional appeal. Hence downvoting.

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by netsharc »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #25
catlover76 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention a lot of us are in the US, and the international perception of deliberately bombing a civilian population, turning off its water supply, etc., in retaliation for a terrorist attack (however brutal and big) is much more dim than most American media outlets and power-holders want people to believe. I think the rest of the world is looking at the situation a lot more realistically, and is fully aware that…

It probably doesn't hurt that this is basically exactly what America did following the 9/11 attacks, which while certainly horrific, brutal, and warranted a response, launched us straight into an armed conflict that afflicted somewhere between 200 and 600 thousand deaths on a completely unrelated populace while plunging an entire middle eastern state into near total anarchy that it has yet to entirely recover from, a…

Arguably Bin Laden got a great ROI on 9/11, what was his budget to train 20 terrorists, and the Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld response was lots of trillions of dollars, sending a lot of young Americans to death and disability, and a world that grew to hate the US even more (not just the Muslim world; Europe too, remember "Freedom Fries"?). And damn, 20 years later who runs Afghanistan? Taliban, with surplus Humvees.

So yeah, Hamas is probably happy right now with the IDF response, they don't care about the Palestinian civilians...

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by xyzelement »

lalajollyton wrote: post #22
xyzelement wrote: post #16

It’s about the same as saying “kids just want to drink Tide pods nowadays.” There’s definitely something wrong with kids who do it but you can’t deny that TikTok is where it gets coordinated. If your kid is on TikTok all day and gets all their information there, you can’t really separate their belief from the contents they see.

Supporting Palestinians is nothing like the Tide pod challenge. Anyone who cares about human right should be extremely concerned about what Israel is doing right now.

It’s actually quite simple. Israel was out of Gaza for years prior to Oct 7. On Oct 7, Hamas targeted over 1.5 thousand civilians including babies and the aged for slaughter and kidnapping. Resulting in a military operation to suppress Hamas.

So yes if your level of nuance on this is “Israel is hurting human rights, ceasefire now” and you are oblivious to who broke the ceasefire and how, then it’s not that different than making you drink Tide.

Re: TikTok says it's not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine

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Post by apwell23 »

viraptor wrote: post #18
apwell23 wrote: post #11

makes sense. ppl root for the underdog.

That's a shallow take. How about: people learned about the situation between Palestine and Israel and root for human rights and ability to live in safety.

> That's a shallow take.

deep takes are automatically superior ?

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