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Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

junofan wrote: post #34
convexstrictly wrote: post #13

Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

When two people have different ideologies and neither is willing to backdown or compromise, one person must "go".

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by [deleted] »

jmye wrote: post #27
charcircuit wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That does not change the fact there are no sources. Knowing people does not mean you are never wrong, nor does it mean you will never twist a story.

It means that over a long reporting career, there’s no reason, whatsoever, to believe she’s either lying or twisting things. Being a contrarian for kicks or as a personality is boring: if you want to make an accusation, make it.

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Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

brigadier132 wrote: post #38
woeirua wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn’t believable. You don’t fire a CEO and put out a press release accusing them of lying over Dev day. Unless he told them he wasn’t going to announce it and then did.

Reading about Ilya, it seems like he is fully bought into AI hysteria.

he seems like a more credible source than random people with no real ml experience

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by jdminhbg »

anonymouskimmer wrote: post #37
junofan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

How so? It's just another firing and being escorted out the door.

It's not "just another firing," the statement accused Altman of lying to the board. Either he did and it's a justified extraordinary firing, or he didn't and it's hugely unprofessional to insinuate he did.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by swatcoder »

reducesuffering wrote: post #7
rcpt wrote: post #4

Wait this is just a corporate turf war? That's boring I already have those at work

No, this move is so drastic because Ilya, the chief scientist behind OpenAI, thinks Sam and Greg are pushing so hard on AGI capabilities, ahead of alignment with humanity, that it threatens everyone. 2/3 of the other board members agreed. Don’t shoot the messenger. No one else has given you a plausible reason why Sama was abruptly fired, and this is what a reporter said of Ilya: ‘He freaked the hell out of people the…

From what's come out so far, it reads more like he thinks they're pushing too hard too fast on commercialization, not AGI. They're chasing profit opportunities at market instead of fulfilling the board's non-profit mission to build safe AGI.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Post by smoldesu »

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #41
junofan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

When two people have different ideologies and neither is willing to backdown or compromise, one person must "go".

Or you introduce an authoritative third party that mediates their interactions. This feels like it wouldn't be a problem if so many high-ranking employees didn't feel so radically different about the same technology.
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