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Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Followup tweet by Kara: Dev day and store were "pushing too fast"! https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725702612379378120

This isn’t believable. You don’t fire a CEO and put out a press release accusing them of lying over Dev day. Unless he told them he wasn’t going to announce it and then did.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Wait this is just a corporate turf war? That's boring I already have those at work

No, this move is so drastic because Ilya, the chief scientist behind OpenAI, thinks Sam and Greg are pushing so hard on AGI capabilities, ahead of alignment with humanity, that it threatens everyone. 2/3 of the other board members agreed. Don’t shoot the messenger. No one else has given you a plausible reason why Sama was abruptly fired, and this is what a reporter said of Ilya: ‘He freaked the hell out of people the…

They aren’t anywhere close to AGI. It’s a joke at this point.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Can anything actually back this up please? This twitter account is just posting stuff and then crediting "Sources".

"This twitter account" is Kara Swisher, probably the most well-known tech reporter working right now. She has known essentially everyone in the tech world for decades at this point. Her sources are not only going to be legit, but she probably has more of them than literally anyone else in the tech world, so she can accurately corroborate information or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Swisher

That does not change the fact there are no sources. Knowing people does not mean you are never wrong, nor does it mean you will never twist a story.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this move is so drastic because Ilya, the chief scientist behind OpenAI, thinks Sam and Greg are pushing so hard on AGI capabilities, ahead of alignment with humanity, that it threatens everyone. 2/3 of the other board members agreed. Don’t shoot the messenger. No one else has given you a plausible reason why Sama was abruptly fired, and this is what a reporter said of Ilya: ‘He freaked the hell out of people the…

Bull. Shit. OpenAI and its people are there to maximize shareholder value. This is the same company that went from "non-profit" to "jk, lol, we are actually for-profit now". I still think that move was not even legal but rules for thee not for me. They ousted sama because it was bad for business. Why? We may never know, or we may know next week, who knows? Literally.

> OpenAI and its people are there to maximize shareholder value

Clearly not, as Sama has no equity and a board of four people with little, if any, equity, just unilaterally decided to upend their status quo and assured $ printer, to the bewilderment of their $2.5T 49% owner, Microsoft.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This twitter account" is Kara Swisher, probably the most well-known tech reporter working right now. She has known essentially everyone in the tech world for decades at this point. Her sources are not only going to be legit, but she probably has more of them than literally anyone else in the tech world, so she can accurately corroborate information or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Swisher

That does not change the fact there are no sources. Knowing people does not mean you are never wrong, nor does it mean you will never twist a story.

It means that over a long reporting career, there’s no reason, whatsoever, to believe she’s either lying or twisting things.

Being a contrarian for kicks or as a personality is boring: if you want to make an accusation, make it.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this move is so drastic because Ilya, the chief scientist behind OpenAI, thinks Sam and Greg are pushing so hard on AGI capabilities, ahead of alignment with humanity, that it threatens everyone. 2/3 of the other board members agreed. Don’t shoot the messenger. No one else has given you a plausible reason why Sama was abruptly fired, and this is what a reporter said of Ilya: ‘He freaked the hell out of people the…

They aren’t anywhere close to AGI. It’s a joke at this point.

An ego battle really

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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post #21

Followup tweet by Kara: Dev day and store were "pushing too fast"! https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725702612379378120

This isn’t believable. You don’t fire a CEO and put out a press release accusing them of lying over Dev day. Unless he told them he wasn’t going to announce it and then did.

I dont get the impression that everyone involved was that mature, given Greg’s tweet

I get the clout everyone has but this was to be a non profit that was already coup de tat into a for profit that grew extremely quickly into uncharted territory

This isnt a multi decade old fortune 500 company with mature C-Suite and boards, it just masquerades as one with a stacked deck, which apparently is part of the problem

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

So basically a confirmation, but with a slight disagreement on the vocabulary used to describe it.
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