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Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by pkamb »

huggyface wrote: post #58
tomflack wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The users don't have a choice for the most part and it's a small enough difference that most don't know about it. That doesn't mean it doesn't negatively impact people. If you want a non-16:9 laptop you have to buy Apple.

The users don't have a choice for the most part The migration of the monitor industry to 16:9 wasn't one sided. Given the option between 4:3 and 16:9, users overwhelmingly chose 16:9. Eventually the demand was so unbalanced that 4:3 became less common. Really the notion that manufacturers, except for brave Apple, unilaterally decided to force this on users is completely asinine. The GP claimed that it was "ridiculous…

But consumers did not choose 16:9 over 16:10, because consumers cannot tell the difference. We can thank TV panels for that switch:

LENOVO: "Again, we can thank the LCD manufacturers for this change. By cutting everything in the same aspect ratio, they have less waste per large sheet of glass. Since these manufacturers make more selling TV displays than laptop displays, the PC vendors have almost zero say in this change. We simply have to adapt." http://blog.lenovo.com/perspectives/display-ratio-change-aga...

> Really the notion that manufacturers, except for brave Apple, unilaterally decided to force this on users is completely asinine.

In the case of the iPad, it's completely true. Apple decided that 4:3 screens were the best form factor for a hand-held tablet. So they made 4:3 happen, rather than settle for common and cheaper 16:9 or 16:10 screens. Guess what ratio Android tablets use.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by Seth_Kriticos »

slewis wrote: post #59
lini wrote: post #8

It all depends on the target market - for example if you are making a site for gamers, you should look at the Steam HW survey, where 1920x1080 is used by 25% of people. 1366x768 is a distant second with 15%. Source: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Its true you should consider who your users are. But these numbers shouldn't be used to determine what size to make a website. I'd guess most people with 1920x1080 monitors don't maximize their browser.

I would not be so sure at that. I see plenty of people doing that. It's mostly habit, I think. Even somewhat technically versed people do that (many of them who have been working with computers for more than 15 years).

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by jjcm »

bo1024 wrote: post #27
seanp2k2 wrote: post #16

Sad that our pixel density hasn't gone up since the 90s, really. Tv ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone, and I await their high-density MacBook displays. Hopefully they'll be out this fall, but a quick survey of the 4K-rezo landscape suggests that they'll likely have to wait another year for prices to drop :/

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

The monitors I work with are 20:11. Hard to find, but I enjoy them. Let's me tile two 1024 width windows side by side - good for doing cross browser comparisons. Ratio doesn't bother me on a monitor, I can always find some way to utilize it. I would appreciate a higher pixel density though.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by Freestyler_3 »

bo1024 wrote: post #27
seanp2k2 wrote: post #16

Sad that our pixel density hasn't gone up since the 90s, really. Tv ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone, and I await their high-density MacBook displays. Hopefully they'll be out this fall, but a quick survey of the 4K-rezo landscape suggests that they'll likely have to wait another year for prices to drop :/

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

I have one 16:10 screen, and then a few years later I want to have two 16:10 monitors... but no luck finding one for a decent price. :( Now i Have one 16:10 and one 16:9 (I suggest not doing this because you will look at the differences every day)

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by myko »

huggyface wrote: post #37
seanp2k2 wrote: post #16

Sad that our pixel density hasn't gone up since the 90s, really. Tv ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone, and I await their high-density MacBook displays. Hopefully they'll be out this fall, but a quick survey of the 4K-rezo landscape suggests that they'll likely have to wait another year for prices to drop :/

I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone What the heck....pray tell me that this is some sort of parody or satire? Those 42" 1080p screens were "retina" displays before Apple decided to excuse lazy graphical scaling with the title. You are so off base holding Apple as the leader that you must be playing soccer. EDIT: Downvotes, yet the parent is making such an…

While correct I think it is your tone that is earning you down votes.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by thangalin »

slewis wrote: post #59
lini wrote: post #8

It all depends on the target market - for example if you are making a site for gamers, you should look at the Steam HW survey, where 1920x1080 is used by 25% of people. 1366x768 is a distant second with 15%. Source: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Its true you should consider who your users are. But these numbers shouldn't be used to determine what size to make a website. I'd guess most people with 1920x1080 monitors don't maximize their browser.

For general websites, I preview the site using:

http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/

Many web sites are not designed for people who retain older technology for financial (or other) reasons. Every web developer should befriend someone over the age of 60 and watch their surfing habits.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by Raphael »

lifeformed wrote: post #55
bo1024 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

16:9 is awesome if you use a wide, vertical taskbar.

I also keep the taskbar vertical. The important thing if you use a mouse is to have it on a side that's not next to another monitor so the cursor stops at the edge.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by [deleted] »

evincarofautumn wrote: post #43
martincmartin wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TV ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. Actually, that pixel density is typically too high because they sit so far back. From http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2011/08/high-definiti... "A survey made some years ago by Bernard Lechner, a television engineer at the former RCA Laboratories, near Princeton, New Jersey, showed that the median eye-to-screen distance in American homes was nine feet. At that dis…

Thanks for this; I was going to bring it up if no one else did. Yes, the average human eye is sharp—acuity of just under a hundredth of a degree—but not sharp enough to need that resolution at such distance.

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Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by sciurus »

Freestyler_3 wrote: post #65
bo1024 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

I have one 16:10 screen, and then a few years later I want to have two 16:10 monitors... but no luck finding one for a decent price. :( Now i Have one 16:10 and one 16:9 (I suggest not doing this because you will look at the differences every day)

Agreed. If you're going for two monitors, you should try to get the same model. Otherwise you'll spend a lot of time fiddling with color settings and still never get them to quite match.
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