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Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by pkamb »

huggyface wrote: post #38
bo1024 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

A world of users seem to disagree with you. Maybe it isn't quite as ridiculous as you hold it to be.

So glad the specs of pro development/business machines like the aforementioned Dells and ThinkPads are being influenced by the $299 laptops at BestBuy.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by jamesbritt »

tomflack wrote: post #44
huggyface wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A world of users seem to disagree with you. Maybe it isn't quite as ridiculous as you hold it to be.

The users don't have a choice for the most part and it's a small enough difference that most don't know about it. That doesn't mean it doesn't negatively impact people. If you want a non-16:9 laptop you have to buy Apple.

When my WUXGA-screen Dell Lattitude failed I went looking for a replacement. But Dell decided to stop offering ~15" WUXGA screen laptops; it was all "wide screen" (aka "short screen") now, which meant the loss of a row of 200 pixels.

I ended up getting a Thinkpad W500 from a Lenovo outlet.

I should probably start looking for replacement parts now because when this one goes bad I'll again have to fight against whatever the media-consuming, non-developer market is being sold.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

#53

Post by rhizome »

bo1024 wrote: post #27
seanp2k2 wrote: post #16

Sad that our pixel density hasn't gone up since the 90s, really. Tv ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone, and I await their high-density MacBook displays. Hopefully they'll be out this fall, but a quick survey of the 4K-rezo landscape suggests that they'll likely have to wait another year for prices to drop :/

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

For what it's worth, just last night I was dicking around on Newegg looking at laptops and found that a Panasonic Toughbook appears to support 1900x1200 at 15", which is ~1.5 aspect ratio (4:3 = 1.333; 16:9 = ~1.8). The relevant term you want to search for is "WUXGA".

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

#54

Post by gurkendoktor »

huggyface wrote: post #38
bo1024 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

A world of users seem to disagree with you. Maybe it isn't quite as ridiculous as you hold it to be.

For the opinion of the majority to be meaningful we would need similarly priced choices.

I have a glossy, wide display because that's the only 13" OS X computer money can buy. Please don't include me in an argument by majority. :(

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by lifeformed »

bo1024 wrote: post #27
seanp2k2 wrote: post #16

Sad that our pixel density hasn't gone up since the 90s, really. Tv ruins people with 42" screens at only 1080p. I'm glad to see that Apple is showing people that pixel density matters more than resolution alone, and I await their high-density MacBook displays. Hopefully they'll be out this fall, but a quick survey of the 4K-rezo landscape suggests that they'll likely have to wait another year for prices to drop :/

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

16:9 is awesome if you use a wide, vertical taskbar.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by [deleted] »

bandy wrote: post #41
bo1024 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care so much about pixel density; it's the ratio that bothers me. 16:9 is ridiculous for anything except watching HD television. (It also now works well for gaming, but only because developers decided to cater to widescreen.) 16:10 is the widest that makes sense for any day-to-day computing tasks, yet it's getting harder and harder to find; forget reasonable 4:3 types.

Depending on my task, I may rotate the 1920x1200 screen in front of me 90° to 1200x1920. I find that much more useful for reading large amounts of text and/or code. The underlying OS supports it, the monitor arm this display is mounted on supports it, yet everyone on the job was remarking simultaneously how odd it was and how useful it seemed as they were shoulder-surfing while I picked through a large code-base. A f…

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Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

#58

Post by huggyface »

tomflack wrote: post #44
huggyface wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A world of users seem to disagree with you. Maybe it isn't quite as ridiculous as you hold it to be.

The users don't have a choice for the most part and it's a small enough difference that most don't know about it. That doesn't mean it doesn't negatively impact people. If you want a non-16:9 laptop you have to buy Apple.

The users don't have a choice for the most part

The migration of the monitor industry to 16:9 wasn't one sided. Given the option between 4:3 and 16:9, users overwhelmingly chose 16:9. Eventually the demand was so unbalanced that 4:3 became less common.

Really the notion that manufacturers, except for brave Apple, unilaterally decided to force this on users is completely asinine.

The GP claimed that it was "ridiculous". What horse shit.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by slewis »

lini wrote: post #8

It all depends on the target market - for example if you are making a site for gamers, you should look at the Steam HW survey, where 1920x1080 is used by 25% of people. 1366x768 is a distant second with 15%. Source: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Its true you should consider who your users are.

But these numbers shouldn't be used to determine what size to make a website. I'd guess most people with 1920x1080 monitors don't maximize their browser.

Re: 1366×768px overtakes 1024×768px as the most popular screen resolution worldwide

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Post by Symmetry »

huggyface wrote: post #58
tomflack wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The users don't have a choice for the most part and it's a small enough difference that most don't know about it. That doesn't mean it doesn't negatively impact people. If you want a non-16:9 laptop you have to buy Apple.

The users don't have a choice for the most part The migration of the monitor industry to 16:9 wasn't one sided. Given the option between 4:3 and 16:9, users overwhelmingly chose 16:9. Eventually the demand was so unbalanced that 4:3 became less common. Really the notion that manufacturers, except for brave Apple, unilaterally decided to force this on users is completely asinine. The GP claimed that it was "ridiculous…

I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that it cheaper to make a "15 inch" 16:9 screen than a "15 inch" 4:3 screen. The later is bigger, but your typical consumer shopping based on marketing materials won't be able to figure that out.
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