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Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

apwell23 wrote: post #17
TeMPOraL wrote: post #14

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Even now that it has image generation via DALL-E 3, image comprehension via GPT-4V, and the Android app can hold a voice conversation with you, with unprecedented voice recognition accuracy?

what would a ordinary person use all these for beyond curiosities? I pay for but i only use it handful of times after i remind myself to use it .

Curiosities may be plenty enough. I find the entertainment value of it to be worth $20 alone by now. A handy tool to ad-hoc generate coloring outlines for my kids based on whatever they're interested at the moment is a bonus.

(I used to do image searches for those, and there's plenty of images on any simple topic you can think of, but DALL-E 3 lets me quickly make ad-hoc images based on ideas like "child apprehensive about a robot vacuum coming into the room to eat its toys" or whatever they were joking about 10 minutes earlier.)

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by MattRix »

gumballindie wrote: post #20
TeMPOraL wrote: post #16

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Depends on where it sits on a spectrum between, say, a dumb Markov chain, and a human like you and me. GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former.

> GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former. That’s a seriously dubious statement.

Have you used it? A GPT4 chatbot could convince 90% of people it was a human, right now. It could pass the majority of knowledge-based tests in all kinds of fields. 100 million people find it useful enough to use weekly.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by infecto »

apwell23 wrote: post #17
TeMPOraL wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even now that it has image generation via DALL-E 3, image comprehension via GPT-4V, and the Android app can hold a voice conversation with you, with unprecedented voice recognition accuracy?

what would a ordinary person use all these for beyond curiosities? I pay for but i only use it handful of times after i remind myself to use it .

I use it constantly throughout the day. Queries that I would otherwise hit google for on esoteric topics. Software wise I like to use it when I am using a library I am very unfamiliar with. This tends to happen for me on FE work as I don’t typically do as much there. I can describe what I want and get a code example I can use on top.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by raincole »

zarzavat wrote: post #11
retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

You have to consider costs. If it costs them $15/month to provide the service (just a made up number) then $10/month would not be reasonable. The Plus users also subsidize the Free users to a certain extent. The other effect at work here is anchoring. OpenAI wants people to be prepared to pay more for AI. Setting a higher price anchors that price in people’s minds and makes it feel normal. This will serve them better…

Nah, you have to consider how much time it saves for you. If your rate is $30/hr and ChatGPT saves you 1 hours per month more than free alternatives then why not?

Cost is their business, not yours (unless you're a competitor to them).

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by HKH2 »

throw_pm23 wrote: post #19
broast wrote: post #15

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Same

What is a concrete situation where it is useful?

Comparing any two things so you can clarify the differences. I have found it works well for abstractions.

It is very useful in providing similar examples too. It's way better than a thesaurus.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by infecto »

apwell23 wrote: post #27
chpatrick wrote: post #23

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When you have a question, there's no answer on Google and you don't know who else to ask.

what an example of a question only chatgpt knows ?

I don’t think it has any knowledge that only it knows. That would be silly.

It is the accessibility. I can go and ask an esoteric question about economics and it an answer immediately. Along with that answer comes enough information that I can dig more myself if I want.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by uxhacker »

throw_pm23 wrote: post #19
broast wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same

What is a concrete situation where it is useful?

I use it for several purposes. I most recently used it to find a recèpe for Limecreate for some Ukrainian builders and translate the recipe to Ukrainian.

I also use it to be build multi linguistic tasks lists in English, Polish and Ukrainian for Google sheets.

I also just used it to help create crop planting plan for a farm in Kenya which has just had massive floods, with a constraint that local produce reaches the highest value in December and January. The other constraint is that some of the crops have survived but not all. It is an interesting yield management experiment

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by danielvaughn »

apwell23 wrote: post #27
chpatrick wrote: post #23

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When you have a question, there's no answer on Google and you don't know who else to ask.

what an example of a question only chatgpt knows ?

There are all sorts of questions I've had that are either very hard, or very annoying, to use Google for. They're often technical, but really they could be anything.

Two recent examples that comes to mind:

1. I was helping my 6 year old niece with her homework, and the exercise was extremely confusing. It had 3 pictures - a gumball machine, an owl, and something else (can't remember). The instructions said "for each picture, write 3 adjectives that describe what the picture can do." It's one of those things where, the more you think about it, the more confused you get. I thought I must be going crazy. I took a screenshot and asked ChatGPT if it could understand what the exercise was asking for, and it successfully interpreted the picture but agreed that the exercise as described didn't make sense, because adverbs describe actions, not adjectives.

2. A more trivial example, but I quickly needed to know the time and temperature for cooking bacon in the oven. Stuff like this is incredibly irritating with Google, especially if you're in the kitchen with food particles all over your hand. I don't want to read some backstory about the recipe author growing up on a small farm, intermixed with 15 different ads, just so I can figure out how many teaspoons of salt I need.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by apwell23 »

infecto wrote: post #46
apwell23 wrote: post #27

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what an example of a question only chatgpt knows ?

I don’t think it has any knowledge that only it knows. That would be silly. It is the accessibility. I can go and ask an esoteric question about economics and it an answer immediately. Along with that answer comes enough information that I can dig more myself if I want.

That makes total sense.

Can you give me a specific example of esoteric economics question you referred to. Would love to compare UX with google and chatgpt.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by apwell23 »

danielvaughn wrote: post #48
apwell23 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what an example of a question only chatgpt knows ?

There are all sorts of questions I've had that are either very hard, or very annoying, to use Google for. They're often technical, but really they could be anything. Two recent examples that comes to mind: 1. I was helping my 6 year old niece with her homework, and the exercise was extremely confusing. It had 3 pictures - a gumball machine, an owl, and something else (can't remember). The instructions said "for each…

> It's one of those things where, the more you think about it, the more confused you get.

> it successfully interpreted the picture

Sorry, but how did you know that interpretation was a success?

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