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There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by zarzavat »

retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

You have to consider costs. If it costs them $15/month to provide the service (just a made up number) then $10/month would not be reasonable. The Plus users also subsidize the Free users to a certain extent.

The other effect at work here is anchoring. OpenAI wants people to be prepared to pay more for AI. Setting a higher price anchors that price in people’s minds and makes it feel normal. This will serve them better in the future since the long-term objective is to provide services that replace employees, who are surely paid more than $20/month.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by gumballindie »

terhechte wrote: post #6
retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

I use it usually 10-20 times per day. 5-10 when I'm not working and like 20-30 when I'm working. It saves me a huge amount of time. It would already make sense at a wage of $20 but I earn more and so it is so much worth it. Even if I earn no wage (say a indie dev working on a game) it would still be useful because I save time which I can invest in other things (or play video games). I'd honestly pay $50-$100 for it a…

Why are reddit and forums full of people asking how to make chatgpt code work, and are always downvoted?

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by iot_devs »

terhechte wrote: post #6
retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

I use it usually 10-20 times per day. 5-10 when I'm not working and like 20-30 when I'm working. It saves me a huge amount of time. It would already make sense at a wage of $20 but I earn more and so it is so much worth it. Even if I earn no wage (say a indie dev working on a game) it would still be useful because I save time which I can invest in other things (or play video games). I'd honestly pay $50-$100 for it a…

What do you use it for?

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

Even now that it has image generation via DALL-E 3, image comprehension via GPT-4V, and the Android app can hold a voice conversation with you, with unprecedented voice recognition accuracy?

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by broast »

terhechte wrote: post #6
retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

I use it usually 10-20 times per day. 5-10 when I'm not working and like 20-30 when I'm working. It saves me a huge amount of time. It would already make sense at a wage of $20 but I earn more and so it is so much worth it. Even if I earn no wage (say a indie dev working on a game) it would still be useful because I save time which I can invest in other things (or play video games). I'd honestly pay $50-$100 for it a…

Same

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

gumballindie wrote: post #10
gmuslera wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The value it haves for you may exceed or not its price. But "you" is an important part of that equation.

What value does a procedural text generator provide?

Depends on where it sits on a spectrum between, say, a dumb Markov chain, and a human like you and me. GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former.

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by apwell23 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #14
retskrad wrote: post #3

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

Even now that it has image generation via DALL-E 3, image comprehension via GPT-4V, and the Android app can hold a voice conversation with you, with unprecedented voice recognition accuracy?

what would a ordinary person use all these for beyond curiosities?

I pay for but i only use it handful of times after i remind myself to use it .

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by throw_pm23 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #16
gumballindie wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What value does a procedural text generator provide?

Depends on where it sits on a spectrum between, say, a dumb Markov chain, and a human like you and me. GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former.

Yes, but what do you use it for?

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by throw_pm23 »

broast wrote: post #15
terhechte wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use it usually 10-20 times per day. 5-10 when I'm not working and like 20-30 when I'm working. It saves me a huge amount of time. It would already make sense at a wage of $20 but I earn more and so it is so much worth it. Even if I earn no wage (say a indie dev working on a game) it would still be useful because I save time which I can invest in other things (or play video games). I'd honestly pay $50-$100 for it a…

Same

What is a concrete situation where it is useful?

Re: There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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Post by gumballindie »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #16
gumballindie wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What value does a procedural text generator provide?

Depends on where it sits on a spectrum between, say, a dumb Markov chain, and a human like you and me. GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former.

> GPT-4 is definitely closer to the latter than to the former.

That’s a seriously dubious statement.

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