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The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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According to a study from CargoNet the total theft of cargo containers in 2022 was 1,778 units for a total of about $220m. By comparison about 10,000 cargo containers fall off of ships every year. The problem is well below the threshold where anyone would pay a dollar more per container to deal with it.

‘Falls off ships’ is a pretty convenient excuse.

Sometimes the ocean and seas are not friendly.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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This was fascinating, but also terrible! I'm no expert, but this struck me as suspicious: In possibly the strangest twist on the KitKat trail, Bokksu announced in September that it had acquired Japan Crate. But NYTimes discovered that the acquisition had actually been completed back in June. So Bokksu, through a wholly owned subsidiary, had in effect overseen the loading of its own KitKats onto the original two fraud…

Or, much more likely, to prevent further issues in the supply chain he decided to acquire the supply chain.

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So this guy whose job it is to hire truckers to move goods fell for the same scam twice in a row? Fool me once, etc, etc...

There are lots of high-trust interfaces like this in the legacy businesses that make up most of world commerce. It might not be feasible to do much more in the way of background checks.

They get paid good money to do all of this, scammers have reaised that the king has no clothes and are profiteering on them, which I think is fair.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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Sounds like an interesting story! How big was a pallet? How does one come to know the specific truck driver?

This was back in 1997, so my memory is a little hazy, but I remember it being about 6ft x 6ft x 6ft. It was a bunch of cardboard shipping boxes with clear wrap around them. I think I was paying £10,000 per pallet. He told me he would just skip scanning a pallet at the docks as they were loaded into his trailer, and then his mate would meet him at a roadside services on the motorway with a van and they would somehow m…

If you wrote a book, I’d love to read it.

Not a book that glorifies crime. But one that shows us the hidden sides of humanity. The kind of stuff that happens and the kinds of things people do that you will not see on YV, or read about on X. Another window into the true lives of our fellow humans in an age where many of us are occupied with LLMs and project managers.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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It sounds like it, but it still doesn't make sense to me. A scammer would want to be anonymous so they can't be prosecuted. But a warehouse owner would be well known.

That’s the thing. You have the “unassociated” scammer admit to it otherwise they don’t know to come get the shipment (and pay the fee).

Why does the scammer need to contact them? Why can't the warehouse call and go "Uh, we seem to have your shipment, I don't know why it was off-loaded here, but now that it's here you need to pay us"?

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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For a moment there I thought it was going to be a company by one of HN's users: Candy Japan. Same business: Japanese candy subscription service. But the user profile says Candy Japan is no more. :-(

I used to get boxes from them. Candy Japan is/was a one person operation run by a Finnish guy named Bemmu, who also blogged about his life in Japan.

His user profile is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=bemmu. It now says it was shut down, so I guess it's official. Weird that he wouldn't update the site, though, which just says it's temporarily paused.

I'm not surprised that decided to shut it down; it seemed like a lot of work, and there are now a number of competitors doing the same thing at a much higher volume, with free world-wide shipping, glossy packaging, and so on.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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There's "kit" in this story but no "kat." Don't storage facilities have a procedure to verify who deposits what. And security cameras. Is Tristan a known client of the storage facility? Maybe Vin Diesel drove the truck. Looks to me the storage facilities are on the take. Keep the load for a few weeks then demand payment to release the load. This way the storage space doesn't go unused.

You’re assuming a level of system coordination that doesn’t exist. The storage facility isn’t going to do a damn thing with security cameras unless the police order it. The police aren’t going to get involved unless there’s a clear shot at convicting someone. And storage facilities hold onto peoples’ goods for nonpayment all the time, that’s literally how the show Storage Wars existed.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to a study from CargoNet the total theft of cargo containers in 2022 was 1,778 units for a total of about $220m. By comparison about 10,000 cargo containers fall off of ships every year. The problem is well below the threshold where anyone would pay a dollar more per container to deal with it.

‘Falls off ships’ is a pretty convenient excuse.

If you look around you can probably find an outlet store that sells things such as goods from containers that were dropped at port, pallets that were crushed, etc.

It’s not worth retrieving them from the sea, but anytime they get damaged on land the insurance company ends up owning the remains and auctions it off.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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> By comparison about 10,000 cargo containers fall off of ships every year. Is that big number due to catastrophic failures of entire vessels sinking, or is it more like "whoopsy these goods fell off the truck *wink*" sorta fraud?

> Is that big number due to catastrophic failures of entire vessels sinking No, it's literally because containers fall off the ship and are lost at sea. Total losses of vessels are very rare. Large container ships carry huge stacks of containers, sometimes as high as 8-10 containers above the deck. While the containers are locked together to keep them from moving, they can still fall off during storms. https://www.ne…

The key is that they can fit way more than 10,000 extra containers a year, and companies like Walmart are perfectly fine paying a fraction of the cost of an internal protected container for one that has a chance of disappearing.

Many lightweight items are more expensive to ship than the manufacture.

Re: The hijacking of rare Japanese KitKats

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>Seemingly on cue, Tristan followed up. “Time for some coming clean,” he confessed. “I’m actually a scammer and the owner of HCH doesn’t have anything to do with this.” That's on odd admission from the scammer, when they could have said nothing,

My theory on this - they placed the goods in storage and could not fence them quickly but had found a buyer. Paying the storage fee would kill their profit. So they tell him where the goods are, betting he will 1. Pay the fee 2. Be stupid enough to seek a driver in the same fashion as he found the scammer.

Notice, the person who picked up goods for him after he paid a storage fee was also a scammer. My guess is it is the same as the first scammer or in cahoots.

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