Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it

Post by ksec » Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 4:55 AM UTC

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Apple geeks eating up and justifying anything and everything that apple throws at them is hilarious to see. It takes 50-60$ for a 8GB stick and people justifying that 200$ markup because Apple needs to make profit too. Is it Stockholm syndrome I dont know.

It probably costs Apple way less than $50-$60 for 8GB. The margins must be very high. I understand the business aspect of this for Apple. I'm not mad at them. I'll pay $200 to upgrade the RAM so that I can keep using macOS and have a well-built laptop that makes no noise. Apple knows this. It's just good business in my opinion. But I guess to you, I'm an Apple geek who has Stockholm syndrome.

Post by pxmpxm » Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 5:17 AM UTC

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How? What apps are you using? As soon as I plug in an external monitor it turns into molasses. If I try to do a screen share for a video call, it lags. My memory pressure graph was always maxed out. If I ran the test suite for one repo the system became unresponsive. Docker would eat 4GB with only two containers (just redis and postgresql for local dev) I had to manually tune docker to use a little as possible. It wa…

You're clearly a dev who requires at least 16GB. For many office workers, 8GB is fine.

Post by Canada » Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 6:06 AM UTC

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Yes I have seen this. The disk write speed randomly gets super slow and tons of stuff just locks up at random as many many programs assume it'll be fine to do little writes synchronously. The whole machine becomes totally unusable. I see it on computers (and phones too) whose owners bought the smallest capacity to avoid spending money on something they didn't think they would use.

That's not what happens when an SSD reaches the write limit. It'll simply not let you write more data and becomes read only.

Post by anta40 » Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 6:16 AM UTC

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No it's not. A ton of programs used by regular people (Chrome etc.) are RAM hogs, if you are a dev, then Docker is also an egregious example. If you happen to play games (a big thing for average people), that 8GB will be shared between the CPU and the GPU. Even the Steam Deck, admittedly a budget device, comes with 16GB. It's often mentioned that macOS is more frugal with RAM, a claim which I flat out found to be unt…

> No it's not. A ton of programs used by regular people (Chrome etc.) are RAM hogs, if you are a dev, then Docker is also an egregious example. If you happen to play games (a big thing for average people), that 8GB will be shared between the CPU and the GPU. Even the Steam Deck, admittedly a budget device, comes with 16GB. That's why I said normal office workers and students. I never said 8GB is enough for devs. It w…

Post by deafpolygon » Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 6:54 AM UTC

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I have personally experienced this issue. It just gets very slow before slowly dying outright.

What on earth are you doing to make that happen? Either you’re use case is thrashing the SSD, you have a faulty part or you’re exaggerating.