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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by jraph »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #567
TheCapeGreek wrote: post #563

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I find it odd that the standard policy is to leave packages unattended in any form in the first place . This is another one of those things that is not standard globally. E.g for us in South Africa, this would be unthinkable, regardless of how much time it saves the delivery company. The only time a parcel is left at the door is when it's UberEats. Otherwise delivery is rescheduled if we don't physically collect parc…

Here in France that would be unthinkable, too. But the US still seems to have some remnants of a high trust society, which has been only a temporary thing in many places, if at all. Not having such a society adds frictions in all kind of interactions. In the end, that means cost. I can understand why people and company try to shift that cost when it comes up in areas where it wasn't present beforehand.

> Here in France that would be unthinkable, too.

Yeah, in a city I would expect the mail person to leave a receipt in your mailbox.

In the countryside, though, that's not unheard of :-)

Just like I would easily leave my bike unattended and unlocked in the country side but not in a city.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Tangurena2 wrote: post #159
ranting-moth wrote: post #70

> We understand that this impacts a small percentage of users, ... Wow, what a contemptuous statement. I have news for you, Chamberlain Group. You are not only alienating, being hostile and losing a "Small percentage of users" (most companies would prefer to call them "valued customers", but I get it). You are causing an enormous permanent damage to your own brand.

This is the own goal that Intel did with their Pentium FDIV bug. They were absolutely correct that it only impacted a small percentage of users. They still ended up losing their shirts over the problem.

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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by dmd »

bitwize wrote: post #589
DeepSeaTortoise wrote: post #586

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Here in Buxtehofen, Bavaria, packages are left dangling from trees with a sign saying "I've hung up your rolex, so it wont be dragged of by boars while you're on vacation". And when you're back from hiking the Alps your neighbor will have build a shed around it to protect it from the rain and moved in 10 of his pigs to keep it warm. Unless of course your delivery guy tied your package to a special tree called Maibaum…

This is the best hackernews satire since n-gate stopped updating.

god I miss n-gate.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by sleepybrett »

tacitusarc wrote: post #619
powersnail wrote: post #611

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I live in US suburb and I also trust my neighbors. It's unlikely that my actual neighbors are stealing packages. The problem is that there are people who drives through residential areas looking for packages to steal, cars to break into, etc. and that occurs quite frequently, as caught on our security camera. It doesn't take many motorized perpetrators to lower the overall confidence in how secure it is to leave pack…

I trust my neighbors and I have a slew of high res cameras monitoring the area. When there is theft my neighbors come to my house (located at the main entrance to the area), and I get them the relevant footage if I can find it. It’s only happened a few times but I think it helps build community trust.

.. and when the police don't do shit about it?

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by sleepybrett »

godelski wrote: post #505
scottlamb wrote: post #370

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> Not sure where you live, but every house I've lived in (USA, a few different states) during my entire life has had an exterior-quality door with exterior-quality lock, including deadbolt, between the house and garage. Likewise, but even if it's actually locked, no lock is impenetrable, and a closed garage provides a thief with the privacy to pick it at leisure or even break down the door. Burglary deterrence advice…

> Also, I keep stuff (bikes) in the garage that I don't want stolen. Most people keep cars in their garage. Which last I checked were usually more expensive than bikes. Joke aside, people keep a lot of valuable stuff in garages. Hell, tool chests can easily be worth thousands of dollars and are easy to pawn.

bikes are easier to steal and easier to fence, and if you get caught with a stolen one not even a slap on the wrist.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by ajross »

whelp_24 wrote: post #607
ajross wrote: post #479

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> go to the dealer to buy a replacement key fob for your Tesla for $300 and not eBay for $5. Off topic, but FWIW: Teslas don't in general use fobs (maybe you get one with an S or X?). You can buy one for $175 if you want, but in general the primary unlock mechanism is the app on your phone, with the effective root of trust held in an RFID wallet card (of which you can buy extras for $20 each).

That's a terrible idea, and it requires you to have both a smart phone and to have it charged and working to get into your own car. An phone crash can leave you stranded.

Or you do what everyone else does and just keep a backup card in your wallet, which you need for valets and repair folks anyway. "Stranded", really?

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by sgu999 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #103
sgu999 wrote: post #83

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> 1. My wife can check that we didn't forget to close it instead of driving 20 minutes back home to quell her nerves. Seems like a bit of an ill-adaptation. I used to want a smart door lock for exactly this reason, but instead I learned to be mindful when I close my dumb door...

You can teach yourself to be mindful, how about the other people in the house? Or will you personally check it every time the house is empty?

They do the same, and I trust them...

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Post by patmorgan23 »

dpkirchner wrote: post #585
vladvasiliu wrote: post #567

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Here in France that would be unthinkable, too. But the US still seems to have some remnants of a high trust society, which has been only a temporary thing in many places, if at all. Not having such a society adds frictions in all kind of interactions. In the end, that means cost. I can understand why people and company try to shift that cost when it comes up in areas where it wasn't present beforehand.

In the US if a package is not left at the door you either have to wait an unknowable amount of time for another attempt, or you'd have to go to a facility to pick it up. It's difficult to figure out exactly where the facilities are and you're not guaranteed the package won't still be on the original truck or on a new one. The facilities may only be open during the day, while you're at work. Additionally, it's common…

> It's difficult to figure out exactly where the facilities are

No lol, you just enter the tracking number of the missed delivery tag into the carriers website and they tell you where to go pick it up.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by ben_w »

bravura wrote: post #580
brabel wrote: post #575

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Here in Sweden, you can agree to let the delivery company just leave the package by the front door, but it's only common for low value things. Most things are delivered to your nearest post office counter (usually in your closest supermarket) and recently, to a locked postbox nearby which you unlock online with their app.

Here in Berlin Germany, packages are given to whichever neighbor in your apartment building happens to reply to the buzzer fastest, typically the ground floor ones. (Elevators are also uncommon.) I'm friends with all my neighbors but I find this practice completely bizarre.

My case, they're often either not delivered at all (returned to sender or kept at a random Filiale) or if they are delivered it's to a different building that DHL guessed might have been mine.

This is one of several reasons I no longer buy anything from Amazon. Not even if it's the cheapest source. Even if it gets to a Filiale, those are further than most of the shops that would sell similar items.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by jkestner »

bonniemuffin wrote: post #555
Tangurena2 wrote: post #509

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I've got this large delivery box on my porch. Right next to the door. You see it when coming up the steps. About 1/3 of the time packages are left on the porch next to the box that has inch-high letters spelling "Deliveries". The page on Amazon for "delivery instructions" changes frequently, but there's no way to put on there anything about "delivery box". At least they now come to the correct door of the house - the…

Circa 2010-2014ish, I had the same Amazon delivery driver for several years, and it was awesome! It was just this one guy who delivered all the Amazon packages to my neighborhood. Same guy in the same truck every time, and he got to know my family and we would chat and he would help me with gardening and give me advice on how to prune my trees. Nowadays that seems so hopelessly quaint.

For Amazon, yeah. USPS is still like that (well, I haven't asked for gardening help).
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