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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by gustavus »

Chirael wrote: post #46
dylan604 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but the fear of them spitting in the food will always still be there

Choose to go somewhere else that doesn’t do that to you; if you vote with your feet, they will get the message

The guys likely to spit in the food are the same people who don't care the slightest bit about the business and are probably going to end up fired after a couple of months for not showing up getting in a fight with a coworker or manager. And this isn't me trying to bad mouth service industry folks, it's just that people who are working in fast food are usually are not in that situation because they're making life decisions that lead to financial success (again generally not specifically). The point being the person spitting in your food isn't going to care if you come back.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by denysvitali »

asimpleusecase wrote: post #116
denysvitali wrote: post #14

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I lived in Switzerland for 6 months and being originally from the US I tipped a server at a restaurant reflexively by leaving money on the table. The server picked it up and brought it back to me before I left and said “This is not necessary, I get paid to work here.” Being the typical clueless American I was stunned. But I learned over time that just as I would not tip my accountant, banker or lawyer - or plumber, c…

Yes, most likely it's because you tipped "too much".

When the service is outstanding, we tip ~5$ (or simply round the amount). I have rarely seen anyone tip more than that.

On top of that, if you really have to tip, you tip in "average" restaurants as tipping in luxurious ones is extremely odd.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by otteromkram »

denysvitali wrote: post #14

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

When I worked in bars/restaurants, I made way more with tips than the minimum wage for my state. Even as a male bartender who isn't particularly funny or hot.

I worked for it though. Busy nights busting ass, dragging cases and kegs of beer up flights or stairs, making drinks for the whole restaurant while providing full service to bar guests, etc.

I definitely wouldn't have gone into the industry if there wasn't tipping. The stress isn't worth it.

That said, I don't mind leaving a buck or two for fast food/coffee shop workers. I don't think it should be mandatory, but the option should be available.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by Larrikin »

tmountain wrote: post #8

Pro tip: pay cash whenever you can. You can avoid a kiosk that asks you whether you want to tip 30%, 25%, or 20% for the $8 coffee you just bought and just throw some loose change in the jar.

I get thousands of dollars back from my credit card company every year and pay for everything I can with my cards. Many cards specifically give you a higher percentage back on restaurants. I have no intention of ever giving that up. The awkwardness at the counter when the tip prompt shows up is only in your head.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by gustavus »

Footnote7341 wrote: post #59

The biggest myth is that of poor service workers being paid under minimum wage and relying on your tips to survive the reality is that attractive waitresses make up to FIVE TIMES the take home nightly pay of workers in the back in tips. tips are extremely lucrative. there is a reason that wait staff themselves never oppose the current system. Not to mention the legal myths. if they actually received $0 in tips their…

> the reality is that attractive waitresses make up to FIVE TIMES the take home nightly pay

People constantly make this statement as if it is something wrong. The factor of the matter is that I probably make 20-30% more than ny teams project manager, why? Because I went into computers and had a mind for it and being blessed to be fairly intelligent (at least I'd like to believe so), resulting in me getting paid more for than someone else on my team. Is this wrong?

Should I be resentful that somebody was born with better looks than me and that they get compensated more for that in certain sectors than people who are less attractive or fail to take care of their personal appearance?

We all have strengths and weaknesses. Some people were blessed to be good with numbers, some to be good with people, why resent people for being good at something, or working to get good at it?

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by minebreaker »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #26

One of the things about going to Japan, was the service there is phenomenal . Like way above-average. They won't accept tips. In fact, if you leave money on the table, they will chase after you, to give it back. If they did accept tips, I'd make it 50%. I'm pretty sure the reason is that the employees are paid a living wage. A nice side-effect, is that your table doesn't have an "assigned waitstaff." You can ask anyo…

As a Japanese I hate tipping. Service charges are included in the price written on the menu. Tipping feels like a bribery.

Now Uber Eats is popular, some people think tipping is cool because it feels like an American thing...

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by methou »

even uber eats in Japan constantly asking for tips before and after each delivery, while I'm already paying an +30% menu price plus 200~400 Yen delivery yet another ~110 Yen platform fee.

I don’t know what’s wrong with them, I ditched all these American apps when there’s a local competitor.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by [deleted] »

denysvitali wrote: post #122
asimpleusecase wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in Switzerland for 6 months and being originally from the US I tipped a server at a restaurant reflexively by leaving money on the table. The server picked it up and brought it back to me before I left and said “This is not necessary, I get paid to work here.” Being the typical clueless American I was stunned. But I learned over time that just as I would not tip my accountant, banker or lawyer - or plumber, c…

Yes, most likely it's because you tipped "too much". When the service is outstanding, we tip ~5$ (or simply round the amount). I have rarely seen anyone tip more than that. On top of that, if you really have to tip, you tip in "average" restaurants as tipping in luxurious ones is extremely odd.

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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by smaccona »

asimpleusecase wrote: post #116
denysvitali wrote: post #14

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I lived in Switzerland for 6 months and being originally from the US I tipped a server at a restaurant reflexively by leaving money on the table. The server picked it up and brought it back to me before I left and said “This is not necessary, I get paid to work here.” Being the typical clueless American I was stunned. But I learned over time that just as I would not tip my accountant, banker or lawyer - or plumber, c…

Where I live (New York), plumbers, carpenters, electricians and other contractors absolutely expect to be tipped. I’m not originally from the US, but I don’t get the impression that this is a new practice.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by nathanaldensr »

e-clinton wrote: post #101
Chirael wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Choose to go somewhere else that doesn’t do that to you; if you vote with your feet, they will get the message

It’s difficult to find a place that doesn’t do that these days.

The answer is to not go anywhere. Eat at home.
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