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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by gadabout »

paulgerhardt wrote: post #234

Partially responsible for this. (Sold Lockitron to Chamberlain in 2017 which became the basis for Amazon Key integrations.) Contrary to the popular sentiment in a lot of the comments here, there’s not much value in the analytics. As we all painfully found out in the 2010’s, there are only two viable recurring revenue streams in the IoT space - charging for video storage and charging for commercial access. Chamberlain…

I remember proto-Lockitron when it was a bunch of parts laying around a loft studio off College Ave. Hope you're doing well! -Sam

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by azinman2 »

They call out ratgo for its ability to speak the protocol and be a full replacement. But I cannot find an installation video to see how to keep my existing button (with its screen and controls) while also installing this. Does anyone have better documentation?

I’ve already soldered contacts to a garage door opener to a relay with esphome. That works well, but doesn’t give me as much info as theirs does. I also am at risk of the battery dying.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

dpkirchner wrote: post #600
dingnuts wrote: post #599

Earlier quoted context omitted.

speak for yourself, I live in a large US suburb and I trust my neighbors. I grew up in a rural area and I trusted my neighbors when I lived in the urban core of a top 10 population US city, I still trusted my neighbors another comment said the US still had "remnants" of a high trust society. I grew up in that high trust society. I am not old. if our high trust society is gone, we should do whatever is necessary to ge…

I didn't say high trust is gone (although it certainly is in some areas), I said the reason we are cool with packages being left on our porches is the alternative is inconvenient.

Inconvenient and for much of the country, unnecessary. Even when living in the same county as Detroit (but not in the city limits), porch pirates weren't an issue.

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Post by fragmede »

dingnuts wrote: post #599
dpkirchner wrote: post #585

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US if a package is not left at the door you either have to wait an unknowable amount of time for another attempt, or you'd have to go to a facility to pick it up. It's difficult to figure out exactly where the facilities are and you're not guaranteed the package won't still be on the original truck or on a new one. The facilities may only be open during the day, while you're at work. Additionally, it's common…

speak for yourself, I live in a large US suburb and I trust my neighbors. I grew up in a rural area and I trusted my neighbors when I lived in the urban core of a top 10 population US city, I still trusted my neighbors another comment said the US still had "remnants" of a high trust society. I grew up in that high trust society. I am not old. if our high trust society is gone, we should do whatever is necessary to ge…

Even if you don't fully trust them, it's still just a better way to live - if you have the luxury. I left money - change from a grocery run on my coffee table, and then had some friends over. It's not the remnants of a high trust society that let me not worry about that money being out, but financial privilege. That the If the latest shipment of crap from Amazon/Temu went missing. Annoying, but you'd just tell them the package got stolen and get a replacement sent out.

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Post by alistairSH »

WirelessGigabit wrote: post #588
bravura wrote: post #580

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Here in Berlin Germany, packages are given to whichever neighbor in your apartment building happens to reply to the buzzer fastest, typically the ground floor ones. (Elevators are also uncommon.) I'm friends with all my neighbors but I find this practice completely bizarre.

In Belgium the mail carrier is supposed to ring your doorbell and wait x time for you to open it and deliver the package to you. But instead they just put a piece of paper in your mailbox that says 'you weren't home, we'll come back tomorrow'. Next day same thing. Only then can you go and pick it up at the post office. Oh and there are many stories of people seeing the mail carrier defaulting to the piece of paper an…

The US postal service is similar...

If the item fits in your mailbox (letter size), they do that.

If not, they knock, and leave a "we missed you" note if the package is insured. Or leave it on the doorstep if not.

If you get the note, you have to go the post office in two days, during normal office hours (9-5ish), or Saturday morning (9-12). If you don't make in a few days, they return to sender.

But this is only for USPS. If the package is FedEx/UPS/courier, it's the wild west. Sometimes they leave it. Sometimes they leave a note. Frequently they claim they attempted delivery but didn't. And if they miss you a few times, you have to pick it up at the distribution warehouse which could be a 30 min drive away. This is the worst - even for items you know need a signature, there's no guarantee they'll deliver - we ran into this a few months ago with some jewelry - delivery was schedule Monday 12-5pm, we waited in the living room (right by the door) and nobody came. Their system showed a failed attempt (courier lied). Repeated Tues. Called courier warehouse, they asked if we had doorbell video proving the delivery attempt was never made (WTactualFuck). Repeat on Wed. Item was returned to sender. We called sender, asked them to use USPS because private shipping can be a disaster. USPS is often a day slower, but it's fairly reliable.

Some areas have problems with package theft. Fortunately mine isn't one of them, so I'm ok with packages being left.

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Post by whelp_24 »

ajross wrote: post #479
paulgerhardt wrote: post #234

Partially responsible for this. (Sold Lockitron to Chamberlain in 2017 which became the basis for Amazon Key integrations.) Contrary to the popular sentiment in a lot of the comments here, there’s not much value in the analytics. As we all painfully found out in the 2010’s, there are only two viable recurring revenue streams in the IoT space - charging for video storage and charging for commercial access. Chamberlain…

> go to the dealer to buy a replacement key fob for your Tesla for $300 and not eBay for $5. Off topic, but FWIW: Teslas don't in general use fobs (maybe you get one with an S or X?). You can buy one for $175 if you want, but in general the primary unlock mechanism is the app on your phone, with the effective root of trust held in an RFID wallet card (of which you can buy extras for $20 each).

That's a terrible idea, and it requires you to have both a smart phone and to have it charged and working to get into your own car. An phone crash can leave you stranded.

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Post by sangnoir »

bluGill wrote: post #553
sangnoir wrote: post #423

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How old are those houses? They probably are not compliant with current building codes[1], many places require your garage doors (and ceilings) to have higher fire resistance than the rest of the house. In my experience, fire-resistance correlates to sturdiness in doors. 1. I know it's a broad generalization, also location-dependant

Latest codes have backed off of that. Doors that can meet the old fire doors had closing springs set so strong the elderly couldn't open them (or couldn't get in with packages after getting it open)

I don't see anything in your comment that suggests the latest codes have backed from high fire resistance - which was the thrust of the comment you replied to (garage doors have become sturdier, and glass has low fire resistance)

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Post by ChainOfFools »

barroomhero wrote: post #572
ChainOfFools wrote: post #227

I highly recommend anyone having problems with this consider trying this free as in speech (and as in beer if you've got solderimg skills and an ESP laying around) solution: RatGDO [0] 40 bucks, HA, and about half an hour each (mostly fiddling with the ESP/shield pcb wiring inside the light cover of the opener from the awkward overhead-on-a-ladder position) for me to no-cloud smartify two chamberlain MyQ openers. Spe…

I think I have everything needed lying around in spare parts. Know of a guide for install? I tried building something similar years ago but got stuck on the software.

You may actually need a little bit of extra information to replicate a handful of traces (i.e.on breadbpard) present on the little PCB that the ratgdo software relies on to interface the espressif to the terminals of your opener.

It's not terribly complicated but for reasons that are polarizing to many in the garage-door-automation society, the author of the software, although leaving the code completely open source is averse to publishing schematics for the PCB board itself, so others have had to step in and reverse engineer these.

It appears that this project has gone from a very minor side hobby an actual business for the author, and the PCB schematics are pretty much the only IP moat he has, without them he's just providing a very easily (and cheaply) replicated PCB assembly service.

I believe, although I have not verified because I haven't tried this myself, that this site provides both the schematics you need as well as information necessary to Flash the software onto your ESP device.

https://github.com/Kaldek/rat-ratgdo/tree/main

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Post by AussieWog93 »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #563
scrps wrote: post #447

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Amazon expects me to weaken my physical security posture to help them defend against an activity I don't engage in and is in no way my responsibility? AND Chamberlain expects me to weaken my digital security posture so they can run some opaque crap on my network¹ that I have very little observability into and even less control over so they can make money? Money is one hell of a drug because they are high. How about a…

I find it odd that the standard policy is to leave packages unattended in any form in the first place . This is another one of those things that is not standard globally. E.g for us in South Africa, this would be unthinkable, regardless of how much time it saves the delivery company. The only time a parcel is left at the door is when it's UberEats. Otherwise delivery is rescheduled if we don't physically collect parc…

First sentence was really surprising to me (Aussie), until you mentioned later that you're a Saffa. My in-laws took years to adjust after emigrating.

To put things in perspective, it's common over here for people selling things on Facebook/Gumtree to just leave the item outside and have the buyer slide the cash under the doormat. It's less secure but way more convenient, since you don't need to be home to complete the transaction.

I've left tools and other semi-valuables in my unsecured carport, in clear sight from the street, on a main road, for years now and they've never gone missing.

My sister in law lost her iPhone in a public bathroom and got it back simply by calling it and working out a time and location to meet up with the person who found it.

These aren't just freak anecdotes, by the way, they're the norm.

You should really consider coming over here. We need more Saffas in Australia!

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