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YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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I think Google should offer a paid tier like YouTube premium, but with the following feautures: (1) You can opt out of any analytics and tracking (2) They would turn off ads for your OWN channel. So for example, if I have a channel and I pay for premium, then I should be able to TURN OFF ads so that OTHERS who view my channel don't see ads. If Google had these features, I would buy premium in a heartbeat.

Why not Vimeo?

It is a good option.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#52

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I see what you mean about Google's greed. But to be perfectly honoust there is some greed on our behalf as well. The "contract" with YouTube being: don't pay us in $$$, give us your privacy — by attempting to use without revealing our privacy gold we're somewhat free loading, being greedy. It would be better to reject the "contract" and find different ways to access the content without relying on Google's "free" dist…

Yes, I do agree with you. It is not just Google's greed but also our own. In fact, if I had the time and resources, I would love to create a different video sharing site. It would be a site that is like YouTube but only allows 1080P video (to save on hosting). It would take a few minutes, maybe 5 to load a video, to save on bandwidth. It would have a limit on video length as well maybe, It would also not have any ana…

> would be quite nice, sort of like Medium

The worst example possible.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#53
The statement "subscriptions to AdGuard's paid service surged, as it's not affected by YouTube's crackdown" is false. AdGuard apps are also affected by YouTube's anti-adblocker measures. However, there are workarounds. You can avoid the anti-adblocker measures by setting your user agent to an old browser, such as Internet Explorer.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#54
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google should offer a paid tier like YouTube premium, but with the following feautures: (1) You can opt out of any analytics and tracking (2) They would turn off ads for your OWN channel. So for example, if I have a channel and I pay for premium, then I should be able to TURN OFF ads so that OTHERS who view my channel don't see ads. If Google had these features, I would buy premium in a heartbeat.

With (2) they'd need to charge for this tier in proportion to viewership, no? An amount that makes sense for someone with 100 subs is going to be really different than for someone with 100M.

That is a good point. Well, perhaps there would have to be tiers like you said, just like many other services that offer tiers (web hosting, etc).

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see what you mean about Google's greed. But to be perfectly honoust there is some greed on our behalf as well. The "contract" with YouTube being: don't pay us in $$$, give us your privacy — by attempting to use without revealing our privacy gold we're somewhat free loading, being greedy. It would be better to reject the "contract" and find different ways to access the content without relying on Google's "free" dist…

Yes, I do agree with you. It is not just Google's greed but also our own. In fact, if I had the time and resources, I would love to create a different video sharing site. It would be a site that is like YouTube but only allows 1080P video (to save on hosting). It would take a few minutes, maybe 5 to load a video, to save on bandwidth. It would have a limit on video length as well maybe, It would also not have any ana…

I don't see how taking 5min to start playing a video saves you much on bandwidth? I see how you save by accepting somewhat longer start times, and more variance, but even with the delay you're still paying to transfer the same number of bytes.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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uBlock has been working fine. If you get blocked from youtube, you can go to uBlock options, click purge all caches, then "Update Now." Do a full reload in youtube and you're good to go. Tactics are changing continually.

This isn't working for me on Firefox / uBlock and Ubuntu :( I don't get the popup, but the video is just black and the play button does nothing.

I have mostly same configuration except I use Fedora.

Sometimes ublock doesn't work for me. I just open the video in a temporary container it works without any issues.

Have you tried this approach?

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#57
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https://piped.video https://piped.kavin.rocks https://yewtu.be

Libredirect extension to automatically get a curated list of instances and choose the ones with lowest ping times and dash (better than 720p) enabled. Also for dozens of other enshittified services.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google should offer a paid tier like YouTube premium, but with the following feautures: (1) You can opt out of any analytics and tracking (2) They would turn off ads for your OWN channel. So for example, if I have a channel and I pay for premium, then I should be able to TURN OFF ads so that OTHERS who view my channel don't see ads. If Google had these features, I would buy premium in a heartbeat.

And who would buy this premium subscription? Most popular YouTubers want to make money from ads displayed on their videos, it's often one of their primary revenue streams.

Well, I would for one. I've made some money from my channel, but mainly through promoting my own courses and other things. I'm not after a lot of wealth, just enough.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#59
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Those of you defending youtube on this, have you actually tried watching anything on the site without ad blockers? It's not just that they serve you occasional, only moderately annoying ads as a subsidy for not paying, they do it in such an intrusively pervasive manner that it seems intentionally designed to make it nearly unusable. The sheer quantity of garbage interrupting your music or anything else you care to wa…

My YouTube with premium subscription works just fine across all platforms with no ads. They give me service, I give them money, sounds fair.

Well good for you, would you like a pat on the back? You completely missed the main points I'm making, that the very body of content you enjoy was started and created by users themselves and at one point with much of it being in violation of copyright rules with YT fully benefiting from that, only to now get morally righteous about ad blockers being used to block a deliberately, grossly enshittified viewing experience.

Even content creators themselves barely benefit from these ads, because an incredible percentage of them are constantly demonetized for endless arbitrary algorithmic reasons.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

#60

Those of you defending youtube on this, have you actually tried watching anything on the site without ad blockers? It's not just that they serve you occasional, only moderately annoying ads as a subsidy for not paying, they do it in such an intrusively pervasive manner that it seems intentionally designed to make it nearly unusable. The sheer quantity of garbage interrupting your music or anything else you care to wa…

> Those of you defending youtube on this, have you actually tried watching anything on the site without ad blockers?

That's how I normally watch YouTube. It's fine? The ads are mostly skippable after a few seconds.

If I was more into YouTube I'd probably pay to remove ads, but I probably average 15min a day.

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