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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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post #146

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Just because someone got struck by lightning while playing golf, doesn’t make golf dangerous to play.

Golf also requires a membership and equipment to play, as well as physically being there. Omegle is (was?) a free online service with no signup required.

Which requires a computer, internet connection (subscription based!), and actually going to the website and interacting with it on an ongoing basis.

No one is ‘accidentally’ using Omeagle, anymore than they would ‘accidentally’ go golfing.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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post #81
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its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children? + the tool creator shouldnt be at the helm when it goes super viral. cos once everyone shows up, it will as the microbiologist and ecologist rene dubois observed, "[any successful social innovation can be] pushed to the point of absurdity". when a tool goes viral i suppose it should be "taken…

> its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children? Care to elaborate on your accusation? In my world, Omegle was about things like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOYM8HEae4Q

sure that is very cool. thanks for sharing. shows the possibility of this medium. i didnt mean that the author did a bad thing.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#213
post #18

I don't know the whole story, but this seems very genuine. It echoes a sentiment I imagine many people my age feel, where the magic of the early internet we witnessed during our coming of age feels threatened. I feel for him, and hope he's able to move onto other projects which aren't as stressful.

Just today I was dreaming of how awesome it would be if you could just somehow filter "good sports" and just open a game up for online play without having to think about all the bad behavior. How amazing would that be?

In my eyes during the golden age of the internet that I think of, you could still do that... bad actors now and then but not a huge % and we were all excited just to play together and enjoy how cool everything was.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#214
post #20

It seems the real reason this lawsuit found traction while similar ones against much larger platforms is precisely because Omegle sounds like a fairly shoestring operation. Platforms with an army of lawyers can surely fend lawsuits like this off without batting an eye. Apparently Omegle doesn't have an army of lawyers.

This used to be exactly what the EFF and ACLU were for.

The article mentions supporting the EFF if you are opposed to this kind of thing. It's possible they offered to help but the owner was sick of it all. That's the impression I got from reading the piece.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#215
post #179

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> there's something to be said of an overall trend toward more consumption, less production I think this couldn't be further from the truth. You could argue that the production has been heavily centralized, but I think today more than ever we see kids in their early teens making videos on YouTube/TikTok, etc. It's different from other people's childhoods where you'd make geocities website or customize your myspace pa…

> I think today more than ever we see kids in their early teens making videos on YouTube/TikTok, etc. It's different from other people's childhoods where you'd make geocities website or customize your myspace page or write blogs but it's still production nonetheless. You are correct, but there is a disappointing shift in the nature of said content. GeoCities sites and the like were at least labors of love. Your site…

That's also what happens when you turn hobbies into jobs that then become necessities. If you want to pay the bills you have to do and say controversial nonsense or be incredibly exaggerated.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Motor vehicles are a great example. They are HEAVILY regulated and have a gigantic focus on safety.

They aren’t nearly as safe as they could be, and manufacturers have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to implement even basic safety features like seatbelts: some manufacturers even refused on the basis that adding safety features implied their products were unsafe! Airplanes are probably the example you want - heavily regulated and very focused on safety. Not motor vehicles. After all, if they really were focu…

i think it holds up, but I get your point. Still, if 18-year-old me designed and built a new car in my parent's garage, I'm not going to be able to send it out into the world and make millions of copies of it for everyone in the world who wants one.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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post #179

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Also would comport with the explanation that the Internet just gets worse and worse. Will be interesting to see if kids who grew up with TikTok et al. will, as adults, view it as affectionately as we view our childhood form of the Internet. I do think there's something to be said of an overall trend toward more consumption, less production.

> there's something to be said of an overall trend toward more consumption, less production I think this couldn't be further from the truth. You could argue that the production has been heavily centralized, but I think today more than ever we see kids in their early teens making videos on YouTube/TikTok, etc. It's different from other people's childhoods where you'd make geocities website or customize your myspace pa…

I think the post you are replying to was trying to say this, but less precisely. It used to be that a MySpace, account profile on DeviantArt, Flickr, an online forum, or even a personal website was another human trying to connect with (or troll) someone, and that everyone was putting out content because that’s how you needed to exist.

Nowadays, I’m sure that 95% of all content I see is made by a media company for hire, mega corporation, or, most recently, word soup from an LLM where, in a strange twist of fate, I’m just a lab mouse in a giant, AI created A/B test trying to determine which option gets 0.2% more clicks. The age of casual creator is mostly over. Everything you do must be to build or enhance “your brand” and its a full time job to keep up with huge teams that automate the churn of information regurgitation, otherwise you’ll never be able to get enough of a following to qualify for perks that actual content creators make - and we’ve not even gotten to compensation yet. The gold rush of making money selling your brand online is over and it has been enshitified much like everything else novel and interesting in the world and on the internet.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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> how exactly was she "coerced"? Yeah no this is a terrible take. She was coerced by being an 11 year old talking to a grown adult. How do you think she was coerced?

Well that's the question I'm asking, and you didn't answer the question > coerce - persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. What was the threat? Why did she oblige? Why didn't she just block him?

Children, being children, are often gullible and easily manipulated, especially by someone practiced in the matter.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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While I totally understand there's the potential for abuse, I don't think Omegle should be penalized for stuff like this. From my understanding, there's no addictive, profit-maximizing matchmaking or anything going on - it's just a service which lets two strangers talk to one another. Of course you will have bad actors target any platform, but for a lowkey site, it seems sad that they would need to shut down because…

I found this passage particularly relevant:

> Moreover, as a survivor of childhood rape, I was acutely aware that any time I interacted with someone in the physical world, I was risking my physical body. The Internet gave me a refuge from that fear. I was under no illusion that only good people used the Internet; but I knew that, if I said “no” to someone online, they couldn’t physically reach through the screen and hold a weapon to my head, or worse. I saw the miles of copper wires and fiber-optic cables between me and other people as a kind of shield

Omegle, as one of the last places that didn't tie your activity to a real identity, inherently limited the possible harm. Obviously there were creeps on there, but not interacting with them was easy and the only way for anyone to seriously harm you was to give them information about who you were outside of omegle.

A while back I was curious about what sorts of awful things could happen from omegle chats and when you look into it, every single case ultimately involves people continuing conversations via Snap or Instagram.

It's sad that this free, no-harm site has to shut down while Snap/Insta routinely ignore legitimate criticism of their ability to encourage abuse and have enough lawyers to ensure they'll never have to face any consequences for enabling abuse.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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post #18

I don't know the whole story, but this seems very genuine. It echoes a sentiment I imagine many people my age feel, where the magic of the early internet we witnessed during our coming of age feels threatened. I feel for him, and hope he's able to move onto other projects which aren't as stressful.

I find it interesting that the "magical period" seems to be determined by your age. For me, the internet has already lost its magic by the time the mid 2000s came around, well before Omegle came out in 2009. For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up. In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there? It seems more about the magic of c…

> For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up.

> In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there?

I remember seeing stats/meme that you will hear the best music in your teens and early twenties. It is because in our teen years, things make big impact on us.

So it is likely that the internet and other media has similar effects and todays teens will be reminiscing about current internet when they are 30+ or so.

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