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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by marcus0x62 »

aaomidi wrote: post #90
marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

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And, perhaps, for people to think through the basic implications of their comments.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by shadowgovt »

johntiger1 wrote: post #72
JSavageOne wrote: post #56

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It's horrible that this happened and obviously I'm glad the pedophile is in jail, but how exactly was she "coerced"? And how is any of this Omegle's fault?

Yeah it's unfortunate, but I don't think Omegle is exactly at fault here. Perhaps we should consider the abuser to be the one at fault?

We can and do, and on the other side of a legal process, it may be found that Omegle is not at all liable for the actions of its users.

... and if the owner of Omegle doesn't want to take the years it'd take (and tens of thousands in legal fees) to find out whether or not they're liable for a silly project they put together for fun, I can't fault 'em.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by lazide »

ethanbond wrote: post #84
cortesoft wrote: post #61

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I find it interesting that the "magical period" seems to be determined by your age. For me, the internet has already lost its magic by the time the mid 2000s came around, well before Omegle came out in 2009. For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up. In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there? It seems more about the magic of c…

Also would comport with the explanation that the Internet just gets worse and worse. Will be interesting to see if kids who grew up with TikTok et al. will, as adults, view it as affectionately as we view our childhood form of the Internet. I do think there's something to be said of an overall trend toward more consumption, less production.

Anyone who thinks the internet ‘just get’s worse’ never had a full Usenet feed in the 90’s. shudder

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by bitcurious »

Obergruppen wrote: post #87
pfannkuchen wrote: post #52

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> optics Didn’t they used to specifically and notably not care about this? See ACLU defense of neo nazi march.

The ACLU is not the same organization that it used to be. That neo nazi march they defended was almost 50 years ago. It is doubtful they would take a similar stance today.

The ACLU of Virginia did defend the rights of white supremacists to organize in Charlottesville in 2017. I believe the resulting violence triggered some aclu soul searching and I’m not sure where the organization landed on defending the free speech of nazis and the like. Speaking for myself, I hope they keep to their principles.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by shadowgovt »

peyton wrote: post #111
aaomidi wrote: post #90

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Won’t these pedophiles just move to Roblox or start trading kids’ phone numbers or something? Cut off one head and three more emerge. Can’t the answer to people breaking the laws be law enforcement?

They will.

... and Roblox has a financial vested interest in finding them, outing them to authorities, and keeping them off the site, so it'll be worth it to them to do so and to keep the site humming.

Omegle's owner decided to shut it down because it wasn't worth it to them to do that work. That's all. Price not worth paying.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by DANmode »

peyton wrote: post #111
aaomidi wrote: post #90

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Won’t these pedophiles just move to Roblox or start trading kids’ phone numbers or something? Cut off one head and three more emerge. Can’t the answer to people breaking the laws be law enforcement?

> Won’t these pedophiles just move to Roblox

Many there already, unfortunate to report.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by lazide »

ethanbond wrote: post #96
shadowgovt wrote: post #67

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Sure, but then what happened. I suspect the ACLU has refined its opinion on the nature of freedoms. Or the public that funds it has and it realized that it can't do any good if donors pull support because it keeps supporting Nazis. Maybe distinction without a difference.

> I suspect the ACLU has refined its opinion on the nature of freedoms. Of all the targets of ire for "woke culture" etc., I'm really surprised that ACLU, SPLC and similar aren't getting more heat. They're actually highly consequential in people's daily lives and can clearly be ideologically captured by a rather small group of people, given that the orgs themselves are so small. Much better targets of critique than r…

It’s mostly because they’re frankly irrelevant anymore (near as I can tell).

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by bobsmooth »

JSavageOne wrote: post #56
echelon wrote: post #10

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> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

It's horrible that this happened and obviously I'm glad the pedophile is in jail, but how exactly was she "coerced"? And how is any of this Omegle's fault?

It's easier to blame Omegle than society or her parents failing to educate her about the dangers of the internet.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by JSavageOne »

willsmith72 wrote: post #86
JSavageOne wrote: post #56

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It's horrible that this happened and obviously I'm glad the pedophile is in jail, but how exactly was she "coerced"? And how is any of this Omegle's fault?

> how exactly was she "coerced"? Yeah no this is a terrible take. She was coerced by being an 11 year old talking to a grown adult. How do you think she was coerced?

Well that's the question I'm asking, and you didn't answer the question

> coerce - persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.

What was the threat? Why did she oblige? Why didn't she just block him?

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