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Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

projektfu wrote: post #18
breadwinner wrote: post #7

Strange that data corruption [1] is not offered as one of the options :) [1] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/onedr...

Wow.... Also love the typical clueless response from the forum agent.

I haven't even clicked the link above yet, but I just know it's a green checkmarked Accepted answer post from a v-dash MSFT contractor, asking the OP to run `sfc /scannow`, and somehow "2+ people found this post helpful", while below it is a collapsed post with "2,536+ people found this post helpful" votes criticising the state of the MS Answers community.

...right?

UPDATE: I read the thread, and was even more disappointed: none of the official responses even acknowledged the entirety of the problem and callously disregarded important points like OneDrive for Business vs. Personal, the hard evidence of corruption, and MS' twisted messaging on backups for OneDrive...

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by nerdjon »

smoldesu wrote: post #93
daedalus_j wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just as a counterpoint, the same games run better for me on the Linux/proton side of the same hardware. Haven't had any real issues with non-steam games either on my Linux desktop or my steam deck. It's interesting to note how different the experience of different users is. Makes me curious what part of the stack is causing such massively divergent outcomes. Graphics driver? Window manager? Distro defaults? Tough iss…

Additionally, LTSC is a lifeline that was designed to eventually run-out. The individuals that rely on it are in for a rude awakening when the LTS period expires. Microsoft has no interest in catering to you; they want enterprise users on metered B2B solutions, and individuals on their ad-ridden "Home" OS. If you feel insulted, the best they'll offer you is the option to buy a "Pro" license and feel even worse about…

I don't understand why you are making such a critical reply. LTS versions of operating systems have been a standard thing for years. Even some Linux distros do it (did? do they still).

Also a simple google search would have shown otherwise. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/w... Windows 11 LTSC was announced for next year.

Given how Windows 10 LSTC differed strongly from all of the crap they added to normal 10, right now I am leaning towards that Windows 11 will likely follow a similar cut down version of Windows without all of the crap.

LTSC isn't going away, at least not right now. When it does then we can talk about Linux again but right now there is a perfectly valid option without any compatibility issues.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

jonathankoren wrote: post #12

This is just as annoying as Docker constantly asking me to rate it. This trend is just tacky.

I really hate how needy apps are nowadays: “do you like me? Do you? Did you install the mobile app?”

Do your job and shut up; you’re a program.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by rurp »

troad wrote: post #71
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

I'm no dogmatic, soapbox-spewin' free software acolyte, but at this point using Windows just feels somehow degrading. It's like a bad night in Vegas. Like being trapped inside the Daily Mail. Thank God for all of you free software types, or I'd have nothing to boot instead!

No kidding. I have plenty of complaints about Mac and Linux, but JFC Microsoft! At this point I can't imagine I'll ever buy another windows machine. These days it's like Microsoft is trying as hard as they can to insult and drive away users.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by isk517 »

wave100 wrote: post #39

I've managed to avoid the Windows 11 "upgrade" so far by disabling my motherboard's TPM in its BIOS menu. Not sure what I'll do in 2025 when Windows 10 hits EOL.

I was able to get Windows 11 to a decent state by using 3rd party programs, so there is that option. Not holding much hope that the next version of Windows will permit users to even have that option.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by avery17 »

DoctorDabadedoo wrote: post #53
baal80spam wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest (if you really want/need to use Windows) to just use LTSC version.

LTSC in a consumer machine is for sure pirated, no? Not sure that is better than just sticking to windows 10 post EOL.

You act like we don't all already have pirated copies of windows. Might as well get security updates.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by galaxyLogic »

ImaCake wrote: post #95
jm4 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony is that they do care about what the user prefers. All this telemetry and the surveys are to better understand user habits and preferences so they can make their software better. Unfortunately, they are so out of touch and ignorant that the methods they use are the exact bullshit users don't want.

I would expect that some people are genuinely working really hard on making the UX better. But there are equally powerful forces of people who see how they can enrich themselves by actively making the UX worse. It is difficult to underestimate the effectiveness of a sociopathic manager who sees a path to making money at everyone’s expense.

I think MS sees that Google is and has been making huge profits over the years by simply pushing advertising on us.

I assume MS is now going in that direction too. The signs are there, more and more ads in Windows.

And the ads are no longer just 'ads". They are interactive ads, which tell their provider much about people's preferences, which data can then be used, or sold.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by hbosch »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #33
nullindividual wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish I could understand why product managers come up with these ideas and developers implement them. To become Senior Product Managers. You can't advance your career without putting your mark on the product.

Isn't that supposed to be a positive mark? "Yeah, he ruined the product, let's promote him to Senior Product Manager" is not a thing that people say very often.

It's not "he ruined the product", it's "he shipped what leadership wanted". And yes, it gets rewarded all the time. Besides, 'good' is a matter of perspective... if this reduced app closes by even 1% there are lots of people who see that as successful.
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