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Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by thedaly »

jm4 wrote: post #58
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

The irony is that they do care about what the user prefers. All this telemetry and the surveys are to better understand user habits and preferences so they can make their software better. Unfortunately, they are so out of touch and ignorant that the methods they use are the exact bullshit users don't want.

"Better" is subjective and not the term I would use in this context.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by smoldesu »

daedalus_j wrote: post #70
nerdjon wrote: post #24

My decision to just stick with Windows 10 LTS version for gaming is reinforced as a good decision on a fairly regular basis at this point. My partner was on Windows 10 and was running into some issues with OneDrive. Apparently it just moved the entire user directory (or something like that) to OneDrive and most of his files were not local. We tried to disable OneDrive and his Desktop just disappeared. We finally just…

Just as a counterpoint, the same games run better for me on the Linux/proton side of the same hardware. Haven't had any real issues with non-steam games either on my Linux desktop or my steam deck. It's interesting to note how different the experience of different users is. Makes me curious what part of the stack is causing such massively divergent outcomes. Graphics driver? Window manager? Distro defaults? Tough iss…

Additionally, LTSC is a lifeline that was designed to eventually run-out. The individuals that rely on it are in for a rude awakening when the LTS period expires. Microsoft has no interest in catering to you; they want enterprise users on metered B2B solutions, and individuals on their ad-ridden "Home" OS. If you feel insulted, the best they'll offer you is the option to buy a "Pro" license and feel even worse about yourself.

If it works, it works. But LTSC users are like that meme of the smug guy on a plank, aiming at the dude who's keeping them from falling off a cliff.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by [deleted] »

fidotron wrote: post #16

Disappointed it doesn't show you a photo of the Product Manager responsible for OneDrive and make you answer them personally, like Jira went through a phase of doing. A totally missed opportunity. It should be the law that PMs have their faces on such things to promote the same trust we feel towards real estate agents. Privacy policy when signing up? The PM should be there, being responsible.

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by ImaCake »

jm4 wrote: post #58
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

The irony is that they do care about what the user prefers. All this telemetry and the surveys are to better understand user habits and preferences so they can make their software better. Unfortunately, they are so out of touch and ignorant that the methods they use are the exact bullshit users don't want.

I would expect that some people are genuinely working really hard on making the UX better. But there are equally powerful forces of people who see how they can enrich themselves by actively making the UX worse. It is difficult to underestimate the effectiveness of a sociopathic manager who sees a path to making money at everyone’s expense.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by theropost »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #56
nerdjon wrote: post #24

My decision to just stick with Windows 10 LTS version for gaming is reinforced as a good decision on a fairly regular basis at this point. My partner was on Windows 10 and was running into some issues with OneDrive. Apparently it just moved the entire user directory (or something like that) to OneDrive and most of his files were not local. We tried to disable OneDrive and his Desktop just disappeared. We finally just…

Yeah, Windows tries to constantly trick you into using a Microsoft account and storing your Desktop, Documents, etc in OneDrive online. The reason is simple: money. When you inevitably run out of space, you can't save anything else. And you can no longer use your linked Hotmail account. I had to explain to my Dad's 80+ year old neighbor why she couldn't email photos with her kids and then try and fix the messed up Wi…

This should simply be illegal. Fraud.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by pxmpxm »

transcriptase wrote: post #80
quantified wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it's as good as it can be, any change makes it worse.

Precisely why I’m on a Windows 10 install that hasn’t been updated in nearly 2 years. “yes but those updates contain security patches!” If three letter agencies or foreign state sponsored hackers want my Baldur’s Gate 3 save files that bad, they can have them. Otherwise I’m not installing Linkin_Park_Numb.mp3.exe or raw dogging Russian URLs in my spam folder so it’s tough to care. Bitdefender tells me when something…

All the CVE bros just fainted reading this

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by ajmurmann »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #33
nullindividual wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish I could understand why product managers come up with these ideas and developers implement them. To become Senior Product Managers. You can't advance your career without putting your mark on the product.

Isn't that supposed to be a positive mark? "Yeah, he ruined the product, let's promote him to Senior Product Manager" is not a thing that people say very often.

But this person gets to give a presentation to leadership about the reasons users disable OneDrive and propose am ambitious plan to improve it. Users filling up their OneDrive means more money while probably not only a tiny minority will move away from Windows because of stuff like this. The cost of moving to a new OS you aren't used to is huge for most users.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by bozhark »

jm4 wrote: post #58
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

The irony is that they do care about what the user prefers. All this telemetry and the surveys are to better understand user habits and preferences so they can make their software better. Unfortunately, they are so out of touch and ignorant that the methods they use are the exact bullshit users don't want.

All the people they should be tracking block it

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by JohnFen »

Sharlin wrote: post #19
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate) will probably remain the least bad Windows ever released. Shame.

Win 7 is the only version of Windows that I think is actually good.
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