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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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I don’t understand how the MyQ app has such a high rating in the App Store. 4.8, 1.5M reviews. It’s so bare bones, no shortcut support, (obviously) no HomeKit, no widget, literally nothing to make the use easier or more convenient. To make things even worse, first position above you devices is an ad (for their other devices) and it periodically suggests that I connect it to Amazon so some random people delivering pac…

Fake reviews.

That’s my suspicion with Philips Hue’s 4.6 rating on the iOS App Store. They’ve got to have gamed the system somehow - it’s not a good app, and their “you need an account now…for reasons” change is unpopular

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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I bought a free smart switches and haven't implemented snything with them yet. Part of it is because I don't want to actually deploy these things and then be stuck with some crappy proprietary app. Home Assistant looks pretty cool in that regard.

Are the device brand that are more adequate for Home Assistant?

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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I wonder if there is a device that just taps into the open/close wires, with a sensor that will optically detect the distance along the track of the highest roller of the door, and attaches magnetically to the track. This solution would have first-class home assistant support and work across all door openers. ratgdo[1] is close. [1]: https://paulwieland.github.io/ratgdo/

I use opengarage. https://opengarage.io/

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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post #128

Something that I don’t see people talking about here is that MyQ is the core/required integration component for Amazon Key in-garage delivery, a service used by millions of people to have their packages delivered to their garages instead of having them stolen off their porch. That’s why it needs Internet access. All the talk about how Chamberlain will go bankrupt because a comparatively small number of tech people st…

Somewhat off topic but it is quite stunning to me that American carriers just leave the package at the door. I lived in different European countries and in all of them the expectation is that the mailman (official mail, or any of the services like dhl, ups, etc) will ring the bell. If you don't answer they will ring the neighbour and then take it back and either try again another day or you can go to a pickup point.…

When I lived in NYC and like most didn’t own a car this was the way it worked (sans the neighbor, delivering a package to the wrong recipient is a big no no, and makes some huge assumptions about the neighbor, relationship to the neighbor, and sensitivity of the delivery). If you weren’t home you got a hang tag. They attempted redelivery a few times, held it for a while for pickup, then sent it back.

I worked, like most folks, and people are not generally home. The pickup location took two hours to get to via public transit. That’s a four hour round trip. There was one and only one pickup location in the entire NYC region for fedex.

It made life impossible. Amazon came along and decided to take responsibility for losses directly and instructed carriers to leave packages and not reattempt delivery or hold them. Customers vastly preferred this, carriers too as they saved tons of money. Amazon got a reputation for being much more convenient to order from. Their losses as a percentage were low compared to essentially owning mail order due to the convenience. When I had packages stolen they immediately shipped a replacement no questions asked.

Amazon Key is an attempt to mitigate theft but also a lot of folks just feel uncomfortable with packages on their front step. The idea of leaving you garage slightly open for deliveries isn’t a new one, but the Key product improves on that by only opening for the delivery person and recording their interactions to ensure they don’t do something they shouldn’t.

I used it briefly but I didn’t like it because I have a workshop in my garage and I just didn’t want people seeing what I’m working on. I wasn’t worried they would rob me per se, just didn’t like showing my work in progress to random strangers. If it opened the garage slightly to allow the package delivery I would have kept it but it opened 100%.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gave amazon my code for a Christmas present that absolutely could not have been stolen from my porch (as many other recently had). As a working man, I couldn't sit at home to wait for it. I was a little nervous, but I have cameras at least. I then removed all reference to this code from my account. Then, one driver entered while I was going about my day in there and saw me waiting with a hockey stick, as I was wond…

> and now I sometimes get delivery drivers getting pissed off at me (for some reason) that the code doesn't work after they ring my doorbell Since Amazon clearly has no idea what they are doing, I would put up a note next to the keypad saying “Amazon drivers: just drop the package, there is no code”

As if amazon drivers read the notes. I once left a giant note saying in capital letters "DO NOT RING DOORBELL, SLEEPING BABY AT HOME" and of course the absolute knobhead from Amazon had to ring the doorbell. Literally never shouted at anyone in my life before this.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Partially responsible for this. (Sold Lockitron to Chamberlain in 2017 which became the basis for Amazon Key integrations.) Contrary to the popular sentiment in a lot of the comments here, there’s not much value in the analytics. As we all painfully found out in the 2010’s, there are only two viable recurring revenue streams in the IoT space - charging for video storage and charging for commercial access. Chamberlain…

I just connected my garage door opener to Home Assistant by taking apart a paired remote and wiring the button to a Zigbee relay. They can't stop me, no part of this is connected to their cloud. In any case, smart home stuff should never rely on the cloud.

https://i.imgur.com/lNOXdhe.jpg

If you have a Chamberlain garage door opener and looking to connect it to HA you can do this too.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon expects me to weaken my physical security posture to help them defend against an activity I don't engage in and is in no way my responsibility? AND Chamberlain expects me to weaken my digital security posture so they can run some opaque crap on my network¹ that I have very little observability into and even less control over so they can make money? Money is one hell of a drug because they are high. How about a…

They're building and deploying those boxes through the Amazon Hub program. There's no single-family size yet though.

I think you can do it with Luxor one but similar issues exist (ex oversized packages, large cost and area required)

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Partially responsible for this. (Sold Lockitron to Chamberlain in 2017 which became the basis for Amazon Key integrations.) Contrary to the popular sentiment in a lot of the comments here, there’s not much value in the analytics. As we all painfully found out in the 2010’s, there are only two viable recurring revenue streams in the IoT space - charging for video storage and charging for commercial access. Chamberlain…

> go to the dealer to buy a replacement key fob for your Tesla for $300 and not eBay for $5.

Off topic, but FWIW: Teslas don't in general use fobs (maybe you get one with an S or X?). You can buy one for $175 if you want, but in general the primary unlock mechanism is the app on your phone, with the effective root of trust held in an RFID wallet card (of which you can buy extras for $20 each).

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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post #447

Partially responsible for this. (Sold Lockitron to Chamberlain in 2017 which became the basis for Amazon Key integrations.) Contrary to the popular sentiment in a lot of the comments here, there’s not much value in the analytics. As we all painfully found out in the 2010’s, there are only two viable recurring revenue streams in the IoT space - charging for video storage and charging for commercial access. Chamberlain…

Amazon expects me to weaken my physical security posture to help them defend against an activity I don't engage in and is in no way my responsibility? AND Chamberlain expects me to weaken my digital security posture so they can run some opaque crap on my network¹ that I have very little observability into and even less control over so they can make money? Money is one hell of a drug because they are high. How about a…

Are you trolling? In-garage delivery is obviously an optional feature and one that usually costs extra (Eg Walmart InHome is $20/mo)
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