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US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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The last couple of times I upgraded, bloat in maps navigation was reason enough to upgrade to a faster phone. I don't want a sluggish UI while driving. Hoping Google doesn't cram much more ads or junk into the maps app or Waze.

Try OsmAnd, it's great!

The maps are fantastic but I've had real trouble finding places or street addresses there

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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That chargie device is interesting! The latest versions of Android and iOS have finally built in battery management that does basically the same thing (they will not rapid charge over night, and will sometimes limit charge below 100%). I'm curious to see long term how much these changes will help.

Android, Samsung lower mid-range phone: set to maximum 85% charge thru the OS was a nice find in the menu.

Yep, called "Protect battery" or similar. Lots of phones have it, even quite old ones.

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That is what EVs are for. Replace the battery every few years and replace your car whenever a new incompatible plug standard comes out.

Silly point when you consider that manufacturers love the fact that an ICE vehicle has to go into the garage for new parts every few months

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Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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They mean phablets? The shipments of smartphones likely plummeted above 90% because there is like 1 model available in total.

The term phablet has been pretty much obsolete since 2015 or so. Better accept that we're not going back.

All Android devices and all but one iPhones are phablets. Come at me.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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The Pro iPhones are in a different league. I can't go back now.

The main thing is the camera. I've got a Sony mirrorless that I've only taken out a handful of times since I got the 12 Pro. I'm planning to sell or give the Sony away now. The workflow from my iPhone to Darkroom/Photomator on my computer via icloud is so much easier than dealing with transferring photos from the camera. Plus I'm not carrying around a bulky camera.

Camera for sure, but the promotion 120hz display is also pretty important to me now. Going back to a lower refresh rate feels like lag.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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I'm on Apple's yearly upgrade plan and still don't bother. I'm not interested in a device larger than their mini form factor, and they keep a) killing the mini and b) making their devices larger. At the moment the mini I have is better than their SE offering. So why bother updating my phone? And as you say, everything works fine enough for me, so there's no pressure for me to move off my stance.

I deeply miss the iphone 5 form factor, their current "mini" and SE are noteiceably bigger than that size. I'm guessing smaller phones don't get people lost in content as well as the larger ones, and that's why they're not being made anymore.

A number of years ago an observation I had was that people mostly binned into 2 clusters. One was people who tended to use their phone on the go & thus using it one handed, for instance while walking around. The other was people who tended to use their phone while sitting down and/or handing it off to their kids who were sitting down, so mostly 2 handed use. These two bins also corresponded with preference for smaller vs larger form factors.

At least in the US there are a lot more people in the 2nd category than the first.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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Not surprising. Phone upgrades in the last 5 years have been barely worth it. I'll be to first to criticize and mock The Google, but I've been plenty happy with my refurbished Pixel 5 that I not only plan on running it into the ground but getting another one if it finally croaks or loses too much battery capacity. Yes, I could just get the latest Pixel when that happens, but why switch from a phone that I know intima…

One issue is that your Pixel 5 won't get any more security updates (past October 2023). My wife's Pixel 4A is in the same boat - perfectly fine except no more security updates. Doesn't matter much right now, but will gradually start to matter over time.

That's true, though I kind of don't care. Many people of course do care. My risk tolerance is higher than most. I suspect companies like The Google hold security over people's heads in order to effectively inject code and encourage buying new phones. If I haven't installed new software in a very long time, and most of what I use is FOSS, and I rarely ever update my apps, and there's no reason to believe there's any vulnerability, then I'm pretty lukewarm on changing anything.

That said, I have been contemplating a migration to LineageOS, which would provide security updates beyond October 2023, and possibly make my Pixel 5 even better than it already is.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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I know a number of people, myself included, who have been waiting for the return of decent mid-range phones before getting a new one. Right now, there are very few options for people who want a reasonably sized phone, offering reasonably good performance, at a reasonably low cost, with reasonably good durability, with reasonably long software support, from a reasonably trustworthy manufacturer.

Phone sizes nowadays make me furious. I bought a Pixel 6 one year ago, because "on paper" it looked similar to my Pixel 3a. Just 1mm here, 1mm there. But it actually feels way much bigger and heavier in reality. Impossible to conveniently use it with one hand. (Not possible to verify at shop how it would feel, because all shops have those large anti-theft thingies glued to the phones).

Effectively, the Pixel 6 became my "tablet" at home (or a "camera" when travelling), and I still use Pixel 3a as the default on-the-go phone.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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I bought refurbished iPhone SE 2nd gen from eBay for ~$130 in July 2023. Looks brand new. I use Chargie to extend battery life and a magnetic charging port adapter to eliminate charging port wear. When battery will wear out I’ll replace it with the one from iFixit. Let’s see for how long I can make this device last. https://chargie.org/

I was so sure that my iPhone did that for me. I have setup one shortcut to send a notification when I reach 35% (to not go too below) and another one when I reach 85% (to not go too above). Since I'm in front of a computer all day, I never charge during the night anymore.

new iOS releases do.

Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade

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That is what EVs are for. Replace the battery every few years and replace your car whenever a new incompatible plug standard comes out.

Can we please not spread weird conspiracy theories? EV battery replacements are vanishingly rare and nobody is secretly pushing EVs as a way to punish the public.

I assume its much more likely your "extended range subscription" will expire or get hiked to oblivion vs a battery needing replacement.
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