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Post by pvg »

wutwutwat wrote: post #136
pvg wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no such threat, that's ridiculous There are 140 stars on the CIA memorial wall total, which includes plenty of wars and combat zones. There's no serious threat to almost all people who have a security clearance. Quds Force is not scraping LinkedIn for the names of these people.

Is there a list of all CIA employees publicly available? You know, "spies" who are doing covert ops, dealing arms and drugs and destabalizing places to overthrow governments, assasinating people, etc. Do we know who those people are? If not, why would there be a list/memorial for them when KIA? The CIA isn't even the topic here though. There are people with this clerance working for all parts of the federal governmen…

Even the people who work in the most dangerous subsector of this line of work barely die violently, is the point of the memorial wall.

You've listed a whole bunch of questions but the things you've proposed - the threat, its reality, the notion it actually affects someone, etc are entirely of your own making. The onus is on you to provide any evidence of them and there just doesn't seem to be any.

I'm saying it's for sure an attack vector. How could it not be?

Empirically, it doesn't appear to be and hasn't been ever? Again, what makes you think otherwise?

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Post by psunavy03 »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #96
oaththrowaway wrote: post #61

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Curious what you define as "minimal background checks" and "assault rifles" as

in most states someone who has multiple assault violations and a history of mental health problems can walk into a gun show with $700 and 15 minutes later walk out with a semi-automatic AR-15

That's not an assault rifle, first and foremost. Second, selling to someone with multiple assault convictions is itself a Federal felony, and not every gun owner is so careless as to want to take that risk and get pilloried in the press. You're generalizing a worst-case scenario based on a stereotype.

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Post by runako »

jjkeddo199 wrote: post #82
cycomanic wrote: post #56

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Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

As other commenters have mentioned, US American's ease of access to firearms does not extend to their usage. If you buy a weapon and wrongly shoot someone, there is a system in place to make sure you are found and punished. There is no such system in place for catching people flying drones.

> there is a system in place to make sure you are found and punished

Famously, this system works well after it would be useful.

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Post by psunavy03 »

alex_lav wrote: post #111
cycomanic wrote: post #56

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Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

It’s hilarious and excruciating for many Americans too. Source: get me out of here

Then leave.

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Post by defrost »

psunavy03 wrote: post #149
defrost wrote: post #148

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Not to mention the US having more than one state and open inter state borders ... which somewhat negates the "some states" line of argument.

And Europe has the Schengen area; I assume you're familiar?

Has Texas agreed to adopt the strictest gun control measures in the US sates?

I assume you understand the question re: Schengen.

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Post by roshin »

The issue is made so much worse because banks and the like are willing to withdraw money from someone's account with just the SSN and some other basic information. And the banks aren't held accountable when they give your money to a scammer. Rather they blame you for identity theft, and the government sides with the banks.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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Post by ickelbawd »

yogurtboy wrote: post #144
jjkeddo199 wrote: post #55

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At the risk of sounding hyperbolic: Imagine Iranian agents using these address books to track down naval officers in San Diego from across the border in Tijuana. Having a global address book lowers the barrier for hunting people down and hurting them. This is already happening to off-duty Russian officers mowing the lawn at home.

I kind of agree with your sentiment but your final note about murdered Russian officers needs a citation

Literally the first result when searched for:

https://nypost.com/2023/08/29/russian-lieutenant-colonel-mow...

Edit: not the person making the claim, nor am I particularly vested in this story or its validity. But it took me all of 5 seconds to find.

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