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Post by yieldcrv »

cycomanic wrote: post #56
jjkeddo199 wrote: post #33

Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…

Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

yeah the random killings and random violence are quite low in comparison to domestic violence. while disgruntled people you may know are a bigger vulnerability surface but the social connection makes it easier for the assailant to get caught. so the potential assailants (everyone) has an incentive to think of things more elaborate than picking up their semi automatic gun

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Post by jjkeddo199 »

Zagitta wrote: post #133
jjkeddo199 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As other commenters have mentioned, US American's ease of access to firearms does not extend to their usage. If you buy a weapon and wrongly shoot someone, there is a system in place to make sure you are found and punished. There is no such system in place for catching people flying drones.

Have you not heard of remote-id? It's a legal requirement for drones above 250g to broadcast not only their position but also the position of the operator and their identification number.

There are custom firmwares out to bypass these types of things, unfortunately.

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Post by buymreundrfear »

marfil wrote: post #68
cycomanic wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

As a European who has been living in the US for a decade, yeah, you're pretty spot on. Americans are a scared people, probably the most scared I've ever seen. Afraid of the gov't, the neighbors, and random people they don't even know. I've gotten a ton of hate as a foreigner and I am not surprised a hateful, greedy and selfish population like here is afraid somebody will take them out with an improvised device.

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Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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Post by yogurtboy »

jjkeddo199 wrote: post #55
eli wrote: post #45

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Seems like being able to look up people's home address is a pretty minor part of that threat?

At the risk of sounding hyperbolic: Imagine Iranian agents using these address books to track down naval officers in San Diego from across the border in Tijuana. Having a global address book lowers the barrier for hunting people down and hurting them. This is already happening to off-duty Russian officers mowing the lawn at home.

I kind of agree with your sentiment but your final note about murdered Russian officers needs a citation

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Post by psunavy03 »

cycomanic wrote: post #56
jjkeddo199 wrote: post #33

Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…

Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

Tell me you know nothing about US gun laws without telling me you know nothing about US gun laws. Some states have stricter laws than Switzerland and Czechia.

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Post by psunavy03 »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #86
marfil wrote: post #68

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As a European who has been living in the US for a decade, yeah, you're pretty spot on. Americans are a scared people, probably the most scared I've ever seen. Afraid of the gov't, the neighbors, and random people they don't even know. I've gotten a ton of hate as a foreigner and I am not surprised a hateful, greedy and selfish population like here is afraid somebody will take them out with an improvised device.

Non-American also been living here for a decade, and can only say your experiences are not representative, and you seemed to have picked a poor place to live.

Or they're just prejudiced, and taking the worst possible view of their neighbors, who are in all likelihood perfectly normal people.

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Post by defrost »

oaththrowaway wrote: post #113
micromacrofoot wrote: post #107

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not necessarily gun shows of course, that's just where it's easy to find private sellers - private sales don't require background checks

Depending on the state yeah

I hear the US has more than one state and open inter state borders though ...

Kind of undercuts the whole some states have really good gun laws argument.

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Post by defrost »

psunavy03 wrote: post #145
cycomanic wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

Tell me you know nothing about US gun laws without telling me you know nothing about US gun laws. Some states have stricter laws than Switzerland and Czechia.

Not to mention the US having more than one state and open inter state borders ... which somewhat negates the "some states" line of argument.

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Post by psunavy03 »

defrost wrote: post #148
psunavy03 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me you know nothing about US gun laws without telling me you know nothing about US gun laws. Some states have stricter laws than Switzerland and Czechia.

Not to mention the US having more than one state and open inter state borders ... which somewhat negates the "some states" line of argument.

And Europe has the Schengen area; I assume you're familiar?

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

marfil wrote: post #72
justrealist wrote: post #69

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And yet, you live here. Annals of revealed preferences.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I've been dying to leave, nothing I would like more. But I am sure you've heard of the term economic slavery, and that's what I have become. Don't make enough to make the ends meet, and don't make enough to leave. Have to pay the debts before I can give up the passport.

I'm sorry but that's just nonsense.

Worst case you can always go back to whatever country you're a citizen on, go on welfare and start over from scratch.

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