Tempting to emigrate for this.
Toyota's new $10k pickup
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#82To be fair, in APEC/ASEAN markets, this isn't "new", innovative or unique this is general competition because the Suzuki Carry is the market leader. You can purchase a new Suzuki Carry for less than $10,000 in Indonesia:
https://www.suzuki.co.id/automobile/new-carry
https://www.suzuki.co.id/pricelist
So while the news media and everyone on hackernews touts this as "wow!", "Zinga!!" or "I am a ten out of ten!" - this is not as revolutionary as it seems. Everything in this PR material release is alreeady done on the Suzuki Carry as used as a cafe on wheels, or a RV is done with the current Suzuki Carry.
Philippines models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszDcDfhYF4 8:14 one of the most expensive ASEAN/APEC markets, where the suzuki carry is assembled but not manufactured.
Indonesian models, where it is assembled and also manufactured https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AewiO-8fnJ0
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want a 15+ year old truck with this exact configuration as beater for dump and hardware/Lanscaping runs. They are virtually impossible to locate.
Yep. Their owners run them until they die because there is no replacement.
I am one such owner. 1994 toyota pickup.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Oooh, I would _absolutely_ buy one of these to tow with. From an outsider, that's the thing that baffles me the most about the current state of the whole world's auto industry. Sometimes it seems that all auto makers are colluding to prevent any competition based on price, and are instead invested in forcing this notion that the only possible consumer pressure is on seeking luxury features like onboard computers, t…
> A vehicle's primary use is take people and objects from point A to B, and do so reliably Car longevity increased a ton in the last several decades years, and so "something that moves" isn't as central a motivation for new car sales anymore. If they just need something that moves, buyers can find countless used cars that still run and will keep doing so for hundreds of thousands of more miles. It's tough to compete…
> Car longevity increased a ton in the last several decades years, and so "something that moves" isn't as central a motivation for new car sales anymore.
I don't think this is a valid take. Robustness is absolutely not the reason why cars are being heavily marketed based on luxury extras, even on base models.
> If they just need something that moves, buyers can find countless used cars that still run and will keep doing so for hundreds of thousands of more miles.
This is a very silly and absurd take. Cars devalue from their dealer price, which is justified based on all these useless luxury features that no one is able to avoid by design. Used cars might be cheaper than brand new models, but they are by no means cheap.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM TL;DW: In 2008 CAFE introduced a formula that calculates the required MPG based off of the track times the wheelbase (basically the rectangle formed by the tires). Trucks are less aerodynamic than sedans, so small trucks can't be made that get sufficiently low MPG to meet this standard, and thus even though a smaller truck would use less fuel than a larger truck that meets…
Am I missing something or is this regulation as dumb as I think it is? It seems to have the effect of replacing a bunch of small trucks on the road with giant trucks that get much worse mileage overall.
CAFE regs also killed the station wagon (estate for you Brits) in the US. Being regulated as cars, station wagons murdered the manufacturers' averages - but minivans, which barely existed in the US (other than the VW Bus) before the mid-80s, were light trucks and so had different (lower) standards. My mom's 1987 minivan got worse mileage than the 1980 station wagon it replaced, and the only advantage it had was that its interior was taller and so moving things was easier. (I ended up driving it for a few months in the mid-90s, right around move-in for my senior year of college. I was suddenly everyone's best friend for a few days.)
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#86Yeah, give me this truck with just a bit of upsell: airbags, antilock, A/C and a long bed and i'll throw on a spray on bedliner, a tonneau cover and a stereo.
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#87Oooh, I would _absolutely_ buy one of these to tow with. (looks like that diesel has _enough_ torque for my needs.) It's become almost impossible to find a cheap pickup truck in the US. Even older USED trucks are commanding $30K these days. If they could fit this out to pass safety regs in North America and keep the price under $20K, it would be a license to print money.
> If they could fit this out to pass safety regs in North America and keep the price under $20K And add dealer's markup fee and hidden fees, it will automatically touch 30K
Gotta have the undercoating
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#88In other words, a pickup truck! Not a giant SUV masquerading as one, with a 5ft bed and 5-passenger luxury car cab, with price to match. I'm old enough to remember normal pickup trucks, affordable for actual "work" use, with bench seating for three, full 8x4 bed with half ton cargo capacity and not much else.
Every year car models get bigger and heavier. If you compare the original Tacoma to a 2023 Tacoma they look like totally different trucks. A new Tacoma looks bigger than the original Tundra.
I think vehicles should be taxed by weight, length, width, and height. The bigger the vehicle the more likely to cause an accident and the heavier the more likely for the accident to be severe.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want a 15+ year old truck with this exact configuration as beater for dump and hardware/Lanscaping runs. They are virtually impossible to locate.
Toyota used to have a pickup called "pickup" that was awesome. Small, light, but a full-sized bed. minimal with little to break - manual transmission, crank up windows, bench seat, etc. I guess they rely on full-sized american pickup habits and creative financing to get folks to buy more expensive and bulkier trucks.
My dad bought an ‘89 Toyota Pickup in ‘93 and, between he and I, we put 270k miles on the thing
Extended cab, 5 speed manual. It was my first vehicle when I turned 16 and I loved it
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#90No build in hardpoints for weapons? Otherwise amazing. I love how value engineered the aesthetic is.
Weapons mounts will be dealer installed options.