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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by mandmandam »

yunwal wrote: post #400
mandmandam wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Block lattice tech has been around for seven years. All your points would be answered by looking into it - it's not a secret. Eg, Nano uses it. It's been working, efficient, safe, fast ( It's tending toward decentralization because there's no mining, no staking, and there was a genuinely fair distribution. Fee-less transactions come with bad actors spamming the network with microscopic transactions, like a DDOS. So,…

Block lattice is IMO far too unwieldy to use, and is useless for decentralization unless the system you're making payments on is actually yours, meaning you can't use it for real-world payments. Also, still nothing solves the oracle problem. Any form of crypto does nothing for any transaction that doesn't purely take place in digital space. This really is never the case, even when people claim it is. People always us…

> Block lattice is IMO far too unwieldy to use

... It involves scanning a QR code and clicking confirm. It's faster and easier than using a credit card, and uses a tenth of the energy.

> is useless for decentralization unless the system you're making payments on is actually yours

No idea where you got that idea, but it's very silly. You've missed the first principles of cyrpto payments somehow.

> still nothing solves the oracle problem

And cash does? Did Nano claim to solve it? Did I?

>you're still kicking the centralization can down the road

I don't think you understand what 'decentralization' means in the context of crypto. I'm a little curious why you feel qualified to talk authoritatively about this topic?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by mandmandam »

pauselaugh wrote: post #335
mandmandam wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Block lattice tech has been around for seven years. All your points would be answered by looking into it - it's not a secret. Eg, Nano uses it. It's been working, efficient, safe, fast ( It's tending toward decentralization because there's no mining, no staking, and there was a genuinely fair distribution. Fee-less transactions come with bad actors spamming the network with microscopic transactions, like a DDOS. So,…

Nano is a great example against your point as well. Its design flaw is the ORV system requiring someone who just wants the elevator pitch and their life to be wildly more efficient via using digital currency that's faster, safer, cheaper than their debit card having to educate themselves on what-even-is an ORV, how does the voting work, how do you know what a good representative is, and so on. And, as with a lot of t…

> Its design flaw is the ORV system requiring someone who just wants the elevator pitch and their life to be wildly more efficient via using digital currency that's faster, safer, cheaper than their debit card having to educate themselves on what-even-is an ORV, how does the voting work, how do you know what a good representative is, and so on.

It doesn't though. It requires installing a wallet app.

> And so its largest general population adoption, friction creating flaw is that people do not want to be their own bank

Maybe you didn't see that story here yesterday about banks simply closing people's accounts for no reason. Maybe you missed Mastercard and Visa blocking Wikileaks and OnlyFans payments. Maybe you missed the bank bailouts, and the housing crisis, and the Epstein funding, and the Panama papers, etc.

If you've ever seen a bank run, you know that there are times when people absolutely do want to be their own bank.

> my bias would definitely be "if it was worth pursuing, one of the big ones' communities would pursue it as it means more value and a better product"

That's not how a status quo works. When you talk about digital cash, you're stepping on some very sensitive and powerful toes, conspiracy or no.

> I can also see very little incentive for any entity to lose their centralized power to accomodate a tech that directly usurps it over time.

Well now you've hit the nail on the head. Fortunately, accommodation might not be a requirement to success.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by verulito »

rainsford wrote: post #255
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

Can confirm. A crypto bro / lawyer invited me to learn to shoot. I hate guns but figured it was a way to spend time with him. The result is I now have noxacusis, a repetitive stress injury of the ear.

At times I've been unable to tolerate everyday noises like talking or faucets. An unstudied condition that's hugely disabling. The other person in my city with this condition lives in a closet 24/7 with earmuffs.

What's his excuse? "I'm a libertarian and I don't like when gun ranges bother me. I just want to get out there and shoot". Dumbfounding.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by illumin8 »

verulito wrote: post #403
rainsford wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

Can confirm. A crypto bro / lawyer invited me to learn to shoot. I hate guns but figured it was a way to spend time with him. The result is I now have noxacusis, a repetitive stress injury of the ear. At times I've been unable to tolerate everyday noises like talking or faucets. An unstudied condition that's hugely disabling. The other person in my city with this condition lives in a closet 24/7 with earmuffs. What's…

Not all crypto bros are ignorant and don't know how to use proper hearing protection or firearm safety.

In fact, not all of them are gun nuts or hardcore libertarians. 52 million Americans own crypto, do you really think they're all like that?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by omar12 »

account42 wrote: post #391
alephxyz wrote: post #254

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Bring sunglasses (and ear protection while you're at it) when going to a concert.

I'd rather not go at all at that point. Why bother going to a musical performance when you are just going to muffle the sound.

As an middle-aged man that loves to go to concerts, ear plugs are great and do not affect negatively the concert-going experience. Speakers are loud enough that you can feel the music and personally I get energized when people around me are enjoying the concert with me. Plus, your ears will thank you later :).

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by schlick »

kayfox wrote: post #341
Kye wrote: post #82

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That's about the attendance of an average furry convention (or roughly one NordicFuzzCon) where the A/V crew will know what they're doing with the lights. Questionable ideas and their events and services struggle to attract competent staff for some reason. They're always getting hacked or melting faces.

We (furry con A/V) care a lot about safety, so there's no way you'd see UV-C lamps at a furry con dance. We also measure sound levels and keep them in check, have free water stations around the room, have medical trained security staff around, keep an eye on the crowd, etc.

I've DJ'd at a bunch of furry cons now and y'all are the absolute best. Thank you for everything you do <3

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by johnnyanmac »

hannasanarion wrote: post #278
endgame wrote: post #263

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> That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story That's an interesting perspective, and reminds me a bit of the "libertarian paradise" at the end of http://bitsim.beepboopbitcoin.com/ . But the fact that it's framed more as a dunk than as genuine sympathy for those affected reminds me of other anti-crypto reporting like "Line Go Up" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g ). Which makes it real…

Helping people get out is not the only purpose for media about a thing. Informing people who aren't in it is also legitimate news, and can be important if the people outside need to know what's going on inside so that they don't get taken in in the first place.

So this article helped with that? The rave wasn't regulated properly. By the way, NFTs are bad.

I guess it's a reminder that your redditor from yester-decade is now old enough to do that as a professional gig.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by NavinF »

Nursie wrote: post #343
rospaya wrote: post #148

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I'm more interested in the gender distribution.

https://twitter.com/CryptoTurkweb3/status/172136398921162773... Looks almost exclusively male to me.

Are any tech related conferences not like that?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by meowface »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #353
meowface wrote: post #332

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You're absolutely right, but at least there is some underlying art-intended-as-art there. Just as much of the stock market can be viewed the same way but at least there usually is an underlying company with some value behind the stocks. With NFTs there really is nothing there. It's finance without any art component.

You know there's more to NFTs than Bored Apes, right? Look at the stuff Beeple was doing before NFTs hit the mainstream. NFT was about the art before it became a get rich quick thing. Still is if you ignore Yuga Labs and people like them.

I did write that in my other comment. I was just abbreviating here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38172108
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