Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk • Hacker News Board

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #55

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They are not comparable. Starlink offers highspeed (actually, not marketing gibberish), low latency internet around the world at a price people can actually afford and without unreasonable datacaps. This is possible because they are mass producing phased array antennas, something that was out of reach of common affordability before Starlink. Starlink is comparable to Iridium like dial-up internet is comparable to fib…

something that was out of reach of common affordability before Starlink. True, but Starlink isn't what made phased array antennas affordable. The affordability of phased array antennas is what made Starlink financially feasible. When the Iridium constellations were launched in the 1990s, the commercial phased array antennas in use today had not yet been invented. When the second-generation satellites were designed in…

There's no phased array antennas anywhere near even today.

SpaceX was willing to sink over 3 billion into phased array r&d to make it happen.

Also tech from Broadcom and ST Micro

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 5:09 PM UTC

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>it a achieves nothing we don't already have terrestrially Sorry, but this is a very first world, urban perspective. Please have a little empathy. I live in the US and have only one choice for internet from home and it is lousy. Starlink has been a dramatic change for us. This is the situation for many, many people in the US and around the world. Starlink is absolutely offering something that is NOT available terrest…

No it's not at all a first world perspective. I live in the so called developing nations. Aside from some people who might live in rural areas in large countries that are hard to cover georgraphically -- and these people probably could not afford Star Link anyways -- 4G and soon to be 5G is ubiquitous. There is no need for StarLink generally.

I'm from said area you claim to be from. If you use data as much as power users in a month you might well save money on starlink.

There's people importing dishes to use in cities in non covered countries today because of the condition of local networks in cities and the per bit costs

Check the steam download stats for top ISP's. It might surprise you the performance Delta with alternatives.

Telcos are complaining about roll out and spectrum costs. Some of them couldn't survive the 4G transition

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 5:14 PM UTC

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Shipping tracking to reduce black market exchanges and human/drug trafficking. Also, without starlink Ukraine has said they would have been defeated quite quickly. (Ie fighting without a gun). There are many upsides.

> Shipping tracking to reduce black market exchanges and human/drug trafficking I'm sorry-- what? Surely a totally global satellite network available in remote regions such as mountains and jungles would just be a force multiplier for these kinds of activities. > Also, without starlink Ukraine has said they would have been defeated quite quickly. (Ie fighting without a gun). What? : https://www.washingtonpost.com/tec…

Ukraine uses starlink for live artillery correction. The drone operators don't just send coordinates. They send live video. The people firing artillery can see if they hit things live

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #4

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> In 2021, Musk said SpaceX would spin off and take Starlink public once its cash flow was reasonably predictable. As long as authoritarian governments predictably shut off all internet to their extremely ironic ghettos

Which authoritarian governments is Starlink circumventing?

Iran. There's ITU complaints and everything. Starlink seems to work in almost every country in Africa regardless of official availability with arrests in Senegal and extralegal action in South Africa and Zimbabwe, Vanuatu Ascension Island, St Helena

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 5:22 PM UTC

solardev wrote: post #34

Zetobal wrote: post #7

I am really curious how much Musk extracted from American taxpayers. Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink everything is or was substituted by tax money. Without the Ukraine war and all the terminals and monthly payments from different governments Starlink would have no chance to break even so early.

Starlink took government money and made a global network of internet satellites. That's pretty fucking incredible. Meanwhile Xfinity took government money and did fuck all with it. Added some more fees, poisoned DNS, laughed all the way to the bank.

Money ended up being denied

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by marcusverus » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 8:05 PM UTC

mptest wrote: post #68

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> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two. https://x.com/esqueer_/status/1721235855241547877 but you can look through his likes/follows/rts to see plenty of fucked up stuff.

> Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two.

Following an edgelord makes you a nazi?

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by marcusverus » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 8:40 PM UTC

mptest wrote: post #70

marcusverus wrote: post #63

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> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Here's a third link, to him congratulating a literal stochastic terrorist. https://x.com/stevemullis/status/1721656699856306290 Don't be a boot lick. Elon is evil.

> a literal stochastic terrorist.

Tweeting is terrorism? Congratulating someone (tongue-in-cheek) for being featured in a hysterical front-page hit piece is evil? You people crack me up.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by mptest » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 12:24 AM UTC

marcusverus wrote: post #87

mptest wrote: post #70

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Here's a third link, to him congratulating a literal stochastic terrorist. https://x.com/stevemullis/status/1721656699856306290 Don't be a boot lick. Elon is evil.

> a literal stochastic terrorist. Tweeting is terrorism? Congratulating someone (tongue-in-cheek) for being featured in a hysterical front-page hit piece is evil? You people crack me up.

What she does is stochastic terrorism. Maybe you should look it up. Here's a definition for you: Stochastic terrorism refers to political or media figures publicly demonizing a person or group in such a way that it inspires supporters of the figures to commit a violent act against the target of the speech

Which is exactly what evil cunts like libs of tik tok does. Demonizing lgbt people and inspiring violence and bomb threats.

You crack me up you boot licking piece of shit, elon isn't going to pay you for simping for him you know?

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 12:25 AM UTC

marcusverus wrote: post #86

mptest wrote: post #68

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Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two. https://x.com/esqueer_/status/1721235855241547877 but you can look through his likes/follows/rts to see plenty of fucked up stuff.

> Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two. Following an edgelord makes you a nazi?

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Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by mptest » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 12:35 AM UTC

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Here's some of the white supremacist great replacement stuff for you just to start, found in maybe 30sec of scrollin the sub https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/s/Xe4nIKVHgq I don't care enough to dig deeper but you have to be blind or not on twitter to see the ripple of his dog shit ideology. No one sensible gives a fuck about anything but the dodged taxes and pro terrorist shit from jan six to libs of tik tok.…

How you make the leap from "they absolutely want to exterminate your kind" (the 'kind' being those who are pro-Confederacy) to 'this is white people being replaced' is amazing. Nothing in Elons' response implies that he sympathizes with the Confederate-loving moron he's replying to. He's merely making the point that 'they' (whoever 'they' are) want to see an end to the kind of people who worship slave owners. This do…

Just cause you're playing glib and acting like you don't understand the rhetoric in that thread doesn't change reality. It's literally verbatim great replacement shit. "They want to exterminate you." The venn diagram between confederates and white supremacists is a circle with a smaller circle in it. Keep playin glib tho I'm sure elon will pay you any time now for all the hard work you do.