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Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by ipython »

timschmidt wrote: post #41
ipython wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it? To me it reeks of a certain lack of self awareness, respect for others and questionable decision making. You can be interesting and edgy without being a total asshole. I also question his actual interest in sustainability. How exactly does paying $40 billion for Twitter fit into that grand strategy? What about driving a wedge between large groups of people by promoting h…

> Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it? People are allowed to express themselves?

Nice attempt to strawman my argument. Clearly he has all the rights in the world to express himself. Conversely I have all the rights to express my displeasure with his actions :)

Unfortunately I don't have $40b to throw around to amplify my speech, but that's what you get by being one of the richest people on the planet.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by ipython »

erkt wrote: post #43
ipython wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it? To me it reeks of a certain lack of self awareness, respect for others and questionable decision making. You can be interesting and edgy without being a total asshole. I also question his actual interest in sustainability. How exactly does paying $40 billion for Twitter fit into that grand strategy? What about driving a wedge between large groups of people by promoting h…

Is he promoting hate speech or just not suppressing it? Who even gets to define hate speech? Often it seems to be speech that aligns with the other teams political agenda. Having a different opinion on something isn’t hate speech even if it’s a very personally held belief. “When does life begin?”, “is sex different than gender?”, “is the Ukraine war righteous, or NATO expansionism?, “should we do everything possible…

There is a lot of daylight between the arguments you posit and "Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it"

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by marcusverus »

mptest wrote: post #45
zpeti wrote: post #24

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Don't bother with facts for the elon haters, they are emotionally invested in Elon being an evil billionaire right winger, who is only around because of government tax incentives. Oh and it's his employees that did all the work, he just had money... (why didn't SLS, arianespace and blue origin work then? oh and the N1 russian rocket) Never mind the hundreds of data points to the contrary, the media now hates Elon, an…

>it's surprising just how effective they've been at turning many people against him. He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. It takes a real boot licker to not recognize his overt evil he believes politically, and believe it's some media conspiracy. The fact he takes government money isn't a question, whether giving elon th…

> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter.

What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"?

> It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy.

There is no conspiracy required to generate hatred of someone who has become inconvenient--just a large number of journalists acting on their own desire to take him down a notch. How else do you explain the prevalence of hysterical knuckleheads accusing Elon of insane nonsense (like being "overt[ly] evil)?

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by ipython »

timschmidt wrote: post #47
erkt wrote: post #44

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Not people whose opinions differ from mine. /s

I see comment threads about the dude and wonder sometimes where all the hate comes from. People's dissatisfaction with society and injustice and scarcity and all bad things? But then why direct it at this person, who is working to electrify transportation, reduce the cost of space by multiples, make communication globally available, why not some oil billionaire or war profiteer or large scale polluter? Certainly they…

Like I said before, two things can be true at the same time. I haven't shifted the goalposts here.

You bring up an interesting point: why can't you be just as effective - if not more so - by just doing the things rather than doing the things and shitposting non-sequiturs? By sucking all the oxygen out of the room, you're right, the general discourse is focused on distractions and not the real issues. If, for example, he agrees with you that the real issue is oil companies and climate change, why doesn't he focus his public energies pointing that out???

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by timschmidt »

ipython wrote: post #64
timschmidt wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see comment threads about the dude and wonder sometimes where all the hate comes from. People's dissatisfaction with society and injustice and scarcity and all bad things? But then why direct it at this person, who is working to electrify transportation, reduce the cost of space by multiples, make communication globally available, why not some oil billionaire or war profiteer or large scale polluter? Certainly they…

Like I said before, two things can be true at the same time. I haven't shifted the goalposts here. You bring up an interesting point: why can't you be just as effective - if not more so - by just doing the things rather than doing the things and shitposting non-sequiturs? By sucking all the oxygen out of the room, you're right, the general discourse is focused on distractions and not the real issues. If, for example,…

> why can't you be just as effective - if not more so - by just doing the things rather than doing the things and shitposting non-sequiturs?

Medice, cura te ipsum

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by timschmidt »

ipython wrote: post #61
timschmidt wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it? People are allowed to express themselves?

Nice attempt to strawman my argument. Clearly he has all the rights in the world to express himself. Conversely I have all the rights to express my displeasure with his actions :) Unfortunately I don't have $40b to throw around to amplify my speech, but that's what you get by being one of the richest people on the planet.

> Unfortunately I don't have $40b to throw around to amplify my speech

Unfortunately?

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by signatoremo »

GuB-42 wrote: post #6

I don't trust Elon Musk words, at all. It doesn't mean I think it is wrong, but that it can be right or wrong, and material evidence may point to either direction, but what Elon Musk says is random noise to me. At least when he is talking about his business. He is like a professional poker player, you never know when he is bluffing. In the case of Starlink, on what grounds does it "breakeven"? It is a department of a…

Would this give you more information?

https://archive.ph/HRuyf

Basically Starlink revenue is projected to exceed launch revenue next year to become SpaceX’s largest revenue source

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by mptest »

marcusverus wrote: post #63
mptest wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's surprising just how effective they've been at turning many people against him. He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. It takes a real boot licker to not recognize his overt evil he believes politically, and believe it's some media conspiracy. The fact he takes government money isn't a question, whether giving elon th…

> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two. https://x.com/esqueer_/status/1721235855241547877 but you can look through his likes/follows/rts to see plenty of fucked up stuff.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by mptest »

marcusverus wrote: post #63
mptest wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's surprising just how effective they've been at turning many people against him. He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. It takes a real boot licker to not recognize his overt evil he believes politically, and believe it's some media conspiracy. The fact he takes government money isn't a question, whether giving elon th…

> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Here's some of the white supremacist great replacement stuff for you just to start, found in maybe 30sec of scrollin the sub https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/s/Xe4nIKVHgq

I don't care enough to dig deeper but you have to be blind or not on twitter to see the ripple of his dog shit ideology.

No one sensible gives a fuck about anything but the dodged taxes and pro terrorist shit from jan six to libs of tik tok. He deserves to be hated.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by mptest »

marcusverus wrote: post #63
mptest wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's surprising just how effective they've been at turning many people against him. He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. It takes a real boot licker to not recognize his overt evil he believes politically, and believe it's some media conspiracy. The fact he takes government money isn't a question, whether giving elon th…

> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Here's a third link, to him congratulating a literal stochastic terrorist. https://x.com/stevemullis/status/1721656699856306290

Don't be a boot lick. Elon is evil.

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