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Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by boffinAudio »

timschmidt wrote: post #26
zpeti wrote: post #24

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Don't bother with facts for the elon haters, they are emotionally invested in Elon being an evil billionaire right winger, who is only around because of government tax incentives. Oh and it's his employees that did all the work, he just had money... (why didn't SLS, arianespace and blue origin work then? oh and the N1 russian rocket) Never mind the hundreds of data points to the contrary, the media now hates Elon, an…

It's really fascinating to see how the system reacts to agents of actual widespread change.

Tall poppy syndrome abounds.

It shouldn't be too much of a shock, alas, except they don't teach the realities of collective meta-cannibalism much in schools these days.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by boffinAudio »

ipython wrote: post #36
timschmidt wrote: post #32

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> Elon is a crazy shitposter on “X” Does anyone care beyond internet drama points? The man's efforts to engineer societal-level technological change toward sustainability seem to matter more in my estimation.

Clearly Elon does otherwise he wouldn’t do it? To me it reeks of a certain lack of self awareness, respect for others and questionable decision making. You can be interesting and edgy without being a total asshole. I also question his actual interest in sustainability. How exactly does paying $40 billion for Twitter fit into that grand strategy? What about driving a wedge between large groups of people by promoting h…

You call it hate speech, others call it free speech, who is the ultimate arbiter?

Twitter prior to Musk was full of hate speech too. You just had to be in the target group to understand that.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by boffinAudio »

timschmidt wrote: post #47
erkt wrote: post #44

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Not people whose opinions differ from mine. /s

I see comment threads about the dude and wonder sometimes where all the hate comes from. People's dissatisfaction with society and injustice and scarcity and all bad things? But then why direct it at this person, who is working to electrify transportation, reduce the cost of space by multiples, make communication globally available, why not some oil billionaire or war profiteer or large scale polluter? Certainly they…

>why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by boffinAudio »

mptest wrote: post #69
marcusverus wrote: post #63

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> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Here's some of the white supremacist great replacement stuff for you just to start, found in maybe 30sec of scrollin the sub https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/s/Xe4nIKVHgq I don't care enough to dig deeper but you have to be blind or not on twitter to see the ripple of his dog shit ideology. No one sensible gives a fuck about anything but the dodged taxes and pro terrorist shit from jan six to libs of tik tok.…

How you make the leap from "they absolutely want to exterminate your kind" (the 'kind' being those who are pro-Confederacy) to 'this is white people being replaced' is amazing.

Nothing in Elons' response implies that he sympathizes with the Confederate-loving moron he's replying to. He's merely making the point that 'they' (whoever 'they' are) want to see an end to the kind of people who worship slave owners.

This doublethink is astonishing. Please, seriously reconsider your own prejudice when making such preposterous leaps.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by boffinAudio »

mptest wrote: post #68
marcusverus wrote: post #63

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> He's done plenty of it himself, retweeting nazi shit and great replacement shit and all types of horrible shit he supports on twitter. What "nazi shit" has he posted? When has he posted anything about a global conspiracy to replace white people? What "horrible shit" does he support on twitter? Do you have a handy example of this "overt evil"? > It takes a real boot licker to... believe it's some media conspiracy. T…

Well, gee I don't know, let's start with this, literally just off the top of my head from the past day or two. https://x.com/esqueer_/status/1721235855241547877 but you can look through his likes/follows/rts to see plenty of fucked up stuff.

Following someone on Twitter doesn't mean you support them. It means you want to pay attention to what they say in the future.

If I only followed the people I trust, and ignored the people I dis-trust, I'd never know what the people I dis-trust are up to, and be able to respond in kind.

However, you've made your conclusion, its clear that your prejudice and hatred are all you need.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by panick21_ »

trollerator23 wrote: post #58
panick21_ wrote: post #51

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They are closer to 2 million now. And many costumers, like planes, ships, RV and so on actually pay considerably more. Plus, while they were selling terminals at a loss, they are close to even now and some of the more fancy terminals are likely making some money. So its really not that crazy.

Well. Maybe. It's possible. Certainly not "bullshit, not a chance", but I still doubt those satellites and launches have paid for themselves already.

> but I still doubt those satellites and launches have paid for themselves already

That's not what cashflow positives means.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by swagempire »

dev_tty01 wrote: post #56
swagempire wrote: post #48

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But why do you even think this is so important -- it achieves nothing we don't already have terrestrially and just pollutes the sky visually (causing problems with ground based telescopes) and pollutes the atmosphere we actually breathe: https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/11/05/0330226/spacecra... I can't see any upsides to this venture.

>it a achieves nothing we don't already have terrestrially Sorry, but this is a very first world, urban perspective. Please have a little empathy. I live in the US and have only one choice for internet from home and it is lousy. Starlink has been a dramatic change for us. This is the situation for many, many people in the US and around the world. Starlink is absolutely offering something that is NOT available terrest…

No it's not at all a first world perspective. I live in the so called developing nations. Aside from some people who might live in rural areas in large countries that are hard to cover georgraphically -- and these people probably could not afford Star Link anyways -- 4G and soon to be 5G is ubiquitous. There is no need for StarLink generally.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by swagempire »

Dig1t wrote: post #53
swagempire wrote: post #48

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But why do you even think this is so important -- it achieves nothing we don't already have terrestrially and just pollutes the sky visually (causing problems with ground based telescopes) and pollutes the atmosphere we actually breathe: https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/11/05/0330226/spacecra... I can't see any upsides to this venture.

I personally have good internet access because of Starlink. Before that I had very poor options. Living outside of a metro area is a nightmare for internet access. People living in cities take it for granted but it's a complete game changer for my entire neighborhood. Big corps treated us like shit and wanted exorbitant amounts of money to run cables to us. How is providing access to the internet not an awesome thing…

Well I'm happy to that it fills your particular niche. You seem satisfied.

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by timschmidt »

boffinAudio wrote: post #71
timschmidt wrote: post #26

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It's really fascinating to see how the system reacts to agents of actual widespread change.

Tall poppy syndrome abounds. It shouldn't be too much of a shock, alas, except they don't teach the realities of collective meta-cannibalism much in schools these days.

I've heard it described as crabs in a bucket or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

Re: Starlink achieves cash-flow breakeven, says SpaceX CEO Musk

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Post by inemesitaffia »

FireBeyond wrote: post #59
survirtual wrote: post #46

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They are not comparable. Starlink offers highspeed (actually, not marketing gibberish), low latency internet around the world at a price people can actually afford and without unreasonable datacaps. This is possible because they are mass producing phased array antennas, something that was out of reach of common affordability before Starlink. Starlink is comparable to Iridium like dial-up internet is comparable to fib…

> Just go to Iridium's website and try to figure out what they actually sell to anyone who doesn't have elite pockets. You should check out the proposed pricing for Starlink's maritime and aviation offerings... Marine is a $10K one-time fee plus $5K/month. Aviation, $150K plus $25K/month.

They are the low cost provider in both markets.

I'm sure you can get starlink at sea for around $1k per month

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