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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by zer0c00ler »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #246
nextworddev wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the moderation is done via elaborate AI automation. Also RIP chatgpt plugnins

Tickets filed by plugin developers (including requests to publish or update a plugin) are handled by bots. The only contact I've had with a human there has been via backchannels.

Yes, thats also why policies aren’t enforced. I assume OpenAI knew all along that plugins probably are a dead end. Wonder if they will be around 6 months from now.

But Actions will have all the same security challenges basically.

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Post by zer0c00ler »

golol wrote: post #275
jondwillis wrote: post #214

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“GPTs” (terrible name) === Agents

Not even. An agent should primarily operate in some kind of self-prompting loop. Afaik xou can not specify complex and branching looping behaviors for GPTs.

ChatGPT and plugins were already agents. An agent just does stuff on somebody else’s behalf. Browsing, browses the Internet for the user, code interpreter creates and runs Python code for the user…

What you describe are what’s called autonomous agents, and i agree that I also expected some interesting announcement there but probably too many security issues.

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Post by anonyfox »

elforce002 wrote: post #244
nullptr_deref wrote: post #223

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Their primary target is B2B and they want to get that market ASAP. Pretty sure any idea or anything that seems feasible will be copied and even improved upon. The pattern will continue until no one needs anything. I am sure this company will eat everything. There will be no pie.

So, basically develop something, earn $$ early on, and then prepare to be assimilated by chatGPT.

Pretty much this.

Also not only for ChatGPT, but there will be a timespan between majority of people are automated out of jobs and a a forceful redistribution of wealth happens (let’s call it socialism). It’s always a good idea to have that $$ to bridge that gap.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by zer0c00ler »

omarfarooq wrote: post #230
joshstrange wrote: post #182

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No, they just lie in their marketing > Example GPTs are available today for ChatGPT Plus or > Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. Neither of which are true. I'm a paying user and I have access to neither. They do this _all the time_. They announce something "available immediately" and it trickles out a week or more later. If they want to do gradual rollouts (which is s…

Are you sure? Both of those went live at 1 PM PST.

No, it’s 11:24 pm pst and not available for me.

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Post by visarga »

danenania wrote: post #251
siva7 wrote: post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

I think people may be overstating this. OpenAI has obvious brand and distribution advantages for their end-user facing products, but they aren't guaranteed to hit the bullseye and be the market leader in every category. ChatGPT plugins, for example, have never really taken off. Startups like Perplexity and Phind are doing just fine in the "search the web with AI" space that plugins were supposedly going to dominate.…

I recently enjoy Perplexity.ai for their superior search+llm integration, while chatGPT usually send stupid search keywords to Bing that I know are not going to help.

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Post by mvkel »

LouisvilleGeek wrote: post #237
garbanz0 wrote: post #231

When I saw this, I figured it was a clear step back from simply using plugins in the main ChatGPT view. It's basically plugins, but with extra prompting and you can only use one at a time. But if you look at projects like Autogen ( https://github.com/microsoft/autogen ), you see one master agent coordinating other agents which have a narrower scope. But you have to create the prompts for the agents yourself. This GPT…

Curious if anyone that has access can verify that we can still build "actions" via localhost like we previously did with plugins?

Confirmed. Actions don't look to be deprecated

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by visarga »

api wrote: post #61
siva7 wrote: post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

Thin wrappers around anything never make much sense. They're trivially replaceable.

Not only we have to disclose to OpenAI our data, but also to the wrapper operators. This doesn't sit well with me.

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Post by adkandari »

Well the market is pretty obvious. Example - Fitness Influencer on Instagram can be your personal coach,i.e. the AI clone of the Fitness Influencer you can subscribe to at a fairly low price, as personal consultations are expensive and physically limited. So people with distributions and expertise will train their GPTs, make them accessible at affordable prices. good for creators, it's passive income source and good for consumers, affordable service/education.

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Post by visarga »

anigbrowl wrote: post #257
levmiseri wrote: post #216

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The quality of the GPT4 content for travel is surprisingly good, although there are of course plenty of hallucinations and I've a new pass for the content set up that gets rid of the worst offenders. This is really just a learning experiment, but building something of this content scale by 1 person was absolutely impossible a year ago. The point was that content generation use cases might be a viable path give OpenAI…

But does anyone particularly want another travel site full of generic advice? Nothing against your individual project, I'm just saying that the web is already absolutely awash in marketing materials and all-in-one portals. If I'm visiting a place and want to read up on it in advance I tend to look for someone with insider knowledge, otherwise I could just buy a guidebook specifically about that place (might be a bit…

LLMs can quickly extract ideas using search and synthesize fresh articles. Take this conversation thread for example, there are many interesting ideas here, they can be scooped and formatted in a nice style. This gives AI a seed of authenticity, its main role would be to curate the mess.

Here is a sample, it took only a couple of minutes to make: https://pastebin.com/WZpfgWWH

Prompt: Please write a 1000 word long article based off of this text, don't mention the commenters, just weave their ideas into a coherent piece.

I used Claude 2

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by ddmma »

jondwillis wrote: post #214
mg wrote: post #81

So these "GPTs" are the combination of predefined prompts and custom API access? Not customly trained LLMs? If so, I guess you can make such a "GPT" on your own server and independent from a specific LLM service by using a prompt like ...you have available an API "WEATHER_API". If you need the weather for a given city for a given day, please say WEATHER_API('berlin', '2022-11-24') and I will give you a new prompt inc…

“GPTs” (terrible name) === Agents

Exactly my point, then you can register .agency domain based on your area of ‘agent’ expertise.

Sorry, but I won’t bite the marketplace as normally wipe the top agents with official ones, like apple did with native apps.

It’s crowdsourced AGI

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