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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by danenania »

levmiseri wrote: post #216
anigbrowl wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask what the goal is here? It's cool to be able to spin up a nicely designed website (and it is nicely designed and has a good aesthetic), but isn't the content going to be semantically empty? I don't want to be negative but it feels like cheap plastic imitation of a real thing, and the web is already full of spammy low quality content. Aren't you in danger of your products having a very short life cycle and en…

The quality of the GPT4 content for travel is surprisingly good, although there are of course plenty of hallucinations and I've a new pass for the content set up that gets rid of the worst offenders. This is really just a learning experiment, but building something of this content scale by 1 person was absolutely impossible a year ago. The point was that content generation use cases might be a viable path give OpenAI…

Hmm but why click around on an AI-generated content farm to get information when I can just ask ChatGPT directly?

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Post by sucralose »

crooked-v wrote: post #176
dongobread wrote: post #143

I don't think the target market for this is people looking for extremely knowledgeable LLMs that can handle deep technical tasks, given that you can't even finetune these models. I'd guess this is more of an attempt to poach the market of companies like character.ai. The market for models with a distinct character/personality is absolutely massive right now (see: app store rankings) and users are willing to spend ins…

> digital girlfriend The ban on "adult themes" is part of the reason people use services other than OpenAI for that kind of thing in the first place.

OpenAI is against emotional attachment to their LLMs in general, even disregarding "adult themes".

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Post by elforce002 »

nullptr_deref wrote: post #223
adventured wrote: post #215

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Guarantee? That's one of the most important aspects of bothering to build out a platform: eat the ecosystem to add incremental value to the platform, bolster the moat. The guarantee is that they will clone and extinguish most of the best bots/tools/services riding on top of GPT. It's what platforms overwhelmingly tend to do. If your thing is a near-touch to GPT, depends on it, is of medium complexity or lower, and is…

Their primary target is B2B and they want to get that market ASAP. Pretty sure any idea or anything that seems feasible will be copied and even improved upon. The pattern will continue until no one needs anything. I am sure this company will eat everything. There will be no pie.

So, basically develop something, earn $$ early on, and then prepare to be assimilated by chatGPT.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

Without getting into specifics, I operate a ChatGPT plugin with a lot of users.

It sounds like the GPT Store will solve some of the rough edges with plugins as they exist today, but I'm not interested.

OpenAI has been a horrible "partner" to work with. The team that owns this product is terribly under-resourced. You have no hope of reaching a human unless you have an inside contact. Support tickets are handled by GPT; policies are arbitrarily enforced; and major bugs in the API and documentation are simply ignored.

There's an amazing opportunity there for user acquisition, obviously, but do you really want to put your hand in the pain box?

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Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

nextworddev wrote: post #208
minimaxir wrote: post #23

The GPT Store will prove to be an interesting moderation and quality control experiment for OpenAI. Apple/Google have spent a lot of time and money on both of those things and they still have issues, and that's not even accounting for the fact that AI growth hackers will be the primary creators of GPTs. And a revenue sharing agreement will provide even more incentive to do the traditional App Store marketing shennani…

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the moderation is done via elaborate AI automation. Also RIP chatgpt plugnins

Tickets filed by plugin developers (including requests to publish or update a plugin) are handled by bots. The only contact I've had with a human there has been via backchannels.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by Conscat »

alphanullmeric wrote: post #202

So what is the selling point for writers and artists now? Being more expensive, much slower and less capable than a machine? At the rate these things are progressing, there’s not going to be any point in keeping them around.

- Guy who doesn't read books or browse artwork.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by KerryJones »

omarfarooq wrote: post #230
joshstrange wrote: post #182

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No, they just lie in their marketing > Example GPTs are available today for ChatGPT Plus or > Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. Neither of which are true. I'm a paying user and I have access to neither. They do this _all the time_. They announce something "available immediately" and it trickles out a week or more later. If they want to do gradual rollouts (which is s…

Are you sure? Both of those went live at 1 PM PST.

I am sure, this happened to me

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by namibj »

omarfarooq wrote: post #230
joshstrange wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they just lie in their marketing > Example GPTs are available today for ChatGPT Plus or > Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. Neither of which are true. I'm a paying user and I have access to neither. They do this _all the time_. They announce something "available immediately" and it trickles out a week or more later. If they want to do gradual rollouts (which is s…

Are you sure? Both of those went live at 1 PM PST.

I (Plus subscriber, EU) tried https://chat.openai.com/gpts/editor (as linked from https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8554407-gpts-faq#h_86549... ) a minute ago and got a "You do not currently have access to this feature" toast notification on orange background top of pace, along with "chat.openai.com" in the URL bar. (Chrome on Android, but besides a responsive layout, I haven't noticed discrepancies with the desktop Chromium site/interface; sadly the native Android app still shows no signs of code interpreter mode.)

The announced (and a few days ago leaked) Omni prompt also doesn't show up in the model selector. And that despite the expanded context looking very promising for the REPL-feedback-augmented code generation abilities.

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Post by alphanullmeric »

Conscat wrote: post #247
alphanullmeric wrote: post #202

So what is the selling point for writers and artists now? Being more expensive, much slower and less capable than a machine? At the rate these things are progressing, there’s not going to be any point in keeping them around.

- Guy who doesn't read books or browse artwork.

How much something is valued is determined by how much others are willing to give up for it, and looking at artist salaries it’s already not much. Whether or not I browse artwork would make little difference. Trying to attack me for pointing out that something else does the job better doesn’t improve your value proposition at all.
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