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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by aaron695 »

rainsford wrote: post #255
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by thepasswordis »

cthulha wrote: post #370
ericflo wrote: post #279

If you read this article and it gave you pleasure, examine those feelings. I find the generally schadenfreudic reaction to be disgusting. These people just wanted to get together to talk about something they enjoy and you don't.

HN1: "Let people enjoy whatever they enjoy" HN2-100: HN1: "Not like that"

The "regulations" resulted in them going to a party and nearly losing their eyesight. It was implied safe, and it wasn't. How is this not absolutely validating to the entire ethos of strawman you are trying to burn here?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by csomar »

LelouBil wrote: post #199
astrange wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A signed git commit is actually immutable. An NFT is generally the signed text of a URL, which kind of isn't.

Wait what, I thought it was at least the hash of the image or something.

No. You just own a number in a smart contract.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by csomar »

djur wrote: post #313
ericflo wrote: post #279

If you read this article and it gave you pleasure, examine those feelings. I find the generally schadenfreudic reaction to be disgusting. These people just wanted to get together to talk about something they enjoy and you don't.

It's a wonder that there isn't more sympathy for a group of people who say "have fun staying poor" so often they started using an acronym for it.

Shouldn't they have double sympathy though. First, for being idiots and second for getting eye damage?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by gymbeaux »

endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

It’s kind of a metaphor eh?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by astrange »

thrwy_918 wrote: post #316
matteoraso wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, NFTs technically have nothing to do with images, or files at all. The way it works is that you write a random string and save it on a blockchain, which becomes the NFT. From there, you can use a lookup table to map the NFT to a URL that links to an image that's stored on the owner's server. NFTs are truly the worst of all grifts.

AFAIK it is often perfectly possible to actually encode image data on-chain, it is just much more expensive (and much less common as a result)

People get upset when you do this because storing data on-chain is, possibly, infinitely expensive, since you can never get rid of it.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by qingcharles »

codetrotter wrote: post #366
qingcharles wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Retrieving that image relies on someone continuing to pin the file indefinitely, though, right?

The neat thing about IPFS is that the IPFS URL is based on a hash of the file. So having saved that file offline on my harddrive, I can later re-add it to IPFS. ipfs add Downloads/1337.png added QmWjXFUVNjavM4hDzXeQYGXGCXjV86mP7kPEaTeP5bohae 1337.png 140.68 KiB / 140.68 KiB [=============================================] 100.00% Notice that because I added the same file to my local ipfs, it got the same id as it had…

Right, it's like a torrent in that way. I have dozens of torrents where I am waiting for that one guy to -- bless his soul -- open up his torrent client and seed the last 14 bytes.

I guess the best thing to do if you own an Ape is to store the image on your HDD and put a copy in a safe-deposit box, and then pin it yourself whenever you can.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by thrwy_918 »

astrange wrote: post #377
thrwy_918 wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK it is often perfectly possible to actually encode image data on-chain, it is just much more expensive (and much less common as a result)

People get upset when you do this because storing data on-chain is, possibly, infinitely expensive, since you can never get rid of it.

>since you can never get rid of it

if you're an actual believer in NFTs, isn't that kind of the point?

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by worklaptopacct »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Cited in the article: https://twitter.com/crypto_birb/status/1721222853394121193 "Thanks for great apefest logistiscs guys @yugalabs & @BoredApeYC. Incredible event and met plenty of amazing people. Still, as dozens of others, I’ve almost lost sight this night." I mean, c'mon. "Thanks, incredible event, it almost blinded me"?

Wow, someone I (somewhat) know in person featured on HN.

I haven't heard from him in a long while (and even then, he was a friend of a friend who happened to show up from time to time). Then, he got lucky publishing Bitcoin prophecies that were accurate enough to gather significant following. A shovel shop in the times of gold rush kind of thing.

Now from what I see on his Instagram, he seems to be living in Dubai and his life consists of fine dining, driving fast cars and attending crypto conferences. Never in my life will I understand why this kind of life is something that people pursue.

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