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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by jjoonathan »

hnfong wrote: post #325
eru wrote: post #306

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NFTs, and even monkey JPG NFTs, are perfectly sensible when viewed as art projects. (Not as finance: financially, monkey JPG NFTs are rather silly.) And by 'sensible' I mean sensible compared to weird things other people either do for art or spend money on for art. Compare eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_art (and that's far from the most egregious corner).

Arguably Christie's (the auction house) invented the concept of NFT before there were NFTs. I mean, the value of art may be undervalued by society in general , but paintings that sell for hundreds of millions of dollars is just insane. The art collectors are just using art pieces in the same way crypto folks are using NFTs. The only apparent difference is that there's no physical object for NFTs, but the physical obj…

Why insane? An asset with a value that can be arbitrarily manipulated in a plausibly deniable fashion is extraordinary useful for money laundering and tax avoidance.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by CoastalCoder »

Kye wrote: post #334
CoastalCoder wrote: post #299

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Lots of requests for "Hamster Dance"? (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun. No actual offense intended.)

We'll know the furry and anime communities are finally back together after decades apart once a cosplayer and a fursuiter go head to head with Caramelldansen and Hamster Dance at Floor Wars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMmGSsy7IEo

Thanks for the link! I would never have imagined an event like was real.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

meowface wrote: post #332
hnfong wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably Christie's (the auction house) invented the concept of NFT before there were NFTs. I mean, the value of art may be undervalued by society in general , but paintings that sell for hundreds of millions of dollars is just insane. The art collectors are just using art pieces in the same way crypto folks are using NFTs. The only apparent difference is that there's no physical object for NFTs, but the physical obj…

You're absolutely right, but at least there is some underlying art-intended-as-art there. Just as much of the stock market can be viewed the same way but at least there usually is an underlying company with some value behind the stocks. With NFTs there really is nothing there. It's finance without any art component.

You know there's more to NFTs than Bored Apes, right? Look at the stuff Beeple was doing before NFTs hit the mainstream. NFT was about the art before it became a get rich quick thing. Still is if you ignore Yuga Labs and people like them.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by Kye »

kayfox wrote: post #341
Kye wrote: post #82

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That's about the attendance of an average furry convention (or roughly one NordicFuzzCon) where the A/V crew will know what they're doing with the lights. Questionable ideas and their events and services struggle to attract competent staff for some reason. They're always getting hacked or melting faces.

We (furry con A/V) care a lot about safety, so there's no way you'd see UV-C lamps at a furry con dance. We also measure sound levels and keep them in check, have free water stations around the room, have medical trained security staff around, keep an eye on the crowd, etc.

I've gotten to know some A/V people doing furry music, and I'm always appreciative of how dedicated they are to their craft.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by codetrotter »

bethekind wrote: post #101

TLDR; Basically too much UV light resulted in people getting skin burns and burned, red eyes The likely cause imo? Someone bought/used UVB fluorescent tubes/lights (~200nm) instead of LED UVA (~400nm) as blacklights . They're cheaper, brighter and have a stronger effect. Unprotected skin/eyes can feel the difference in I don't think these were UVC, since the UV light affects DNA in a logarithmic scale. UVC is soooo m…

> regular defocusing to relax the eyes

I wonder if we lived in nature instead of cities, if there would be times when we'd relax our eyes and just sit in the grass with defocused vision. It would be nice, I think.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by pauselaugh »

plagiarist wrote: post #324
djur wrote: post #313

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It's a wonder that there isn't more sympathy for a group of people who say "have fun staying poor" so often they started using an acronym for it.

I think it's funny to see smug people lose money but I don't think it's funny if they are seriously injured and possibly permanently disabled.

it's a fixation on the extremes, no?

the people making jokes like "I'm surprised everyone wasn't wearing sunglasses already, their future is so bright" (ok, it was me, right now) are those who had witnessed some form of the extreme cryptobro asserting anyone not on board is mentally disabled.

i'd assert there's nothing unhealthy or immoral about laughing at the poetry of the stereotypical actor doing a sterotypical action and it paralleling the generalization regarding the trope of the failures of NFTs: "a declared cool reality shifter, but potentially harmless fad meeting physical reality with a literally harmful event."

sociopathic, of course, but to those not considering internet based social media "society" it's in containment

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by qingcharles »

pavlov wrote: post #13

The Financial Times [1] has attendee numbers: “About 2,250 people attended the Saturday evening party at a cruise terminal, said organiser Yuga Labs, one of the pioneers in this market. Since then, more than a dozen have posted on social media complaining of a burning sensation in the eyes and sometimes also impaired vision.” Honestly that’s a lot more proud Bored Ape bagholders than I would have guessed. But what do…

I was once (probably) the largest secondary market retailer of Beanie Babies, 1997-1998.

I used to organize "Beanie Fairs" (which were scams).

Can confirm attendance of thousands.

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Post by technion »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #293
rainsford wrote: post #255

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> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

It was a rave open to the general public. How many people actually consider the reputation of someone setting up a party or rave. Half the time it IS someone out of their mind on drugs in a condemned warehouse or the middle of the desert .

Wait.. just to be clear are you saying you could get in without owning one?

I heard for years the "benefit you don't understand" is the exclusive club access. Exclusive nightclubs were a specific use case I kept seeing argued. If anyone can walk in it's not that exclusive. Heck people might just be a raver that doesn't care about crypto but showed up to dance.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by qingcharles »

codetrotter wrote: post #333
matteoraso wrote: post #213

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No, NFTs technically have nothing to do with images, or files at all. The way it works is that you write a random string and save it on a blockchain, which becomes the NFT. From there, you can use a lookup table to map the NFT to a URL that links to an image that's stored on the owner's server. NFTs are truly the worst of all grifts.

> you write a random string and save it on a blockchain, which becomes the NFT. From there, you can use a lookup table to map the NFT to a URL that links to an image that's stored on the owner's server The way which they are mapped to images vary from NFT to NFT. But let's look at Bored Ape Yacht Club specifically. Collection https://opensea.io/collection/boredapeyachtclub Pick a random bored ape. For example #1337.…

Retrieving that image relies on someone continuing to pin the file indefinitely, though, right?
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