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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by anon84873628 »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #256
RenThraysk wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep https://wwd.com/eye/parties/hypebeast-party-uv-lights-injuri...

oof, yeah those were powerful UV-C disinfecting bulbs. I've got half a dozen Elektralite eyeBall UV fixtures that I use for parties in conjunction with other lights, which are 18x3w 385nm UV LEDs per fixture. I don't stare directly into them as they're pretty intense, but they're still firmly in UV-A territory and don't hurt your eyes. They do light up anything fluorescent super bright though! - UVA (315-400 nanomete…

Since you are familiar with the topic:

So now when I go to a place with blacklights, how do I know someone didn't get confused (or is just ignorant) and used bulbs that can burn my eyes? Thanks.

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Post by hbbio »

rainsford wrote: post #255
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

"in my opinion to be way more likely"

I have no data but still, here's my bias.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by s1artibartfast »

rainsford wrote: post #255
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

It was a rave open to the general public. How many people actually consider the reputation of someone setting up a party or rave. Half the time it IS someone out of their mind on drugs in a condemned warehouse or the middle of the desert .

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by logicallee »

Can anyone recommend an insurer where can I take out an insurance policy that covers against this sort of thing and any other weird and random spookie stuff at a distance, in order to cover medical costs and any quality of life issues that result?

Some sort of literal insurance policy would make me feel better after reading stories like this.

It probably wouldn't be too expensive, people tend to inflate risks based on saliency, I bet the actual risk is very low, but it will give me enough peace of mind to be worth it.

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Post by dekhn »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #229
phkahler wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are regulations on that stuff in some countries. A friend of mine is in lighting and says their company generally avoids lasers due to the hassle of compliance.

In the USA, you need an FDA variance to operate one at events. https://www.proxdirect.com/support/variance has some info but the most important parts are: - Laser projector must be mounted and have the lowest point on the beam at least 10 fee above the floor and 10 feet horizontally from anywhere a person could go -- this is why many laser shows just do "laser sky" effects that are just projecting wide horizontal lin…

in optical research you typically end your beam into a beam dump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_dump IIUC at CERN it's basically a big chunk of graphite that heats up a bunch when you drain your beam into it.

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Post by meepmorp »

ericflo wrote: post #279

If you read this article and it gave you pleasure, examine those feelings. I find the generally schadenfreudic reaction to be disgusting. These people just wanted to get together to talk about something they enjoy and you don't.

If you read this article and immediately wanted to admonish others for what you imagine their reactions to be, examine those feelings.

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Post by eru »

endgame wrote: post #263
rainsford wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

> That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story That's an interesting perspective, and reminds me a bit of the "libertarian paradise" at the end of http://bitsim.beepboopbitcoin.com/ . But the fact that it's framed more as a dunk than as genuine sympathy for those affected reminds me of other anti-crypto reporting like "Line Go Up" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g ). Which makes it real…

Guess which kind of reporting gets more engagement?

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Post by anigbrowl »

jeffhuys wrote: post #39

I really am surprised by all the “lol you buy NFT so already blind” folks. Actually pretty disgusting. Disclaimer: I don’t own NFTs.

I feel sorry for the attendees (though as noted their suffering is temporary, and they were probably drawn by the lure of easy money). I'm delighted about the organizers' further loss of reputation and likely legal troubles.

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Post by CoastalCoder »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #234
astrange wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I help run an anime con with, uh, 15 times this reported attendance. The most important thing is to keep your competent volunteers entertained so they're happy to run a rave one weekend a year that doesn't blind anyone.

+1 I've also got some friends who do sound, lighting, and DJ for anime / furry cons. It's a fun little niche.

Lots of requests for "Hamster Dance"?

(Sorry, couldn't resist the pun. No actual offense intended.)

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by sanderjd »

userbinator wrote: post #271
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? If you see clear tubes emitting a light blue glow, close your eyes and get away ASAP. One of the few positive things about the pandemic may be that it's educated lot more people on what UVC lamps look like, as they're often used --- away from people --- for sterilisation purposes.

What? I've seen lots of tubes that may or may not have been clear, I really don't know, emitting light blue glows. Like, I used to go into Spencer's at the local mall a couple decades ago... I would have no clue what the difference is here.
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