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Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

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Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

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It blows my mind that the US keeps treating China, its biggest trade partner, as an enemy. There is no way that China would ever initiate a war against the US. It feels like, if anything, this insistence on treating China as an enemy increases risk for the US.

Look at the latest iteration of Army doctrine. It says it’s meant to refocus us on being able to fight peer or near-peer nations. It’s very clearly targeted at China alone.

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

#32

It's amazing that the move of RISC-V Foundation to Switzerland (as RISC-V International) was actually called for. Even more amazing is US lawmakers continuing to try & shoot the US in the foot. RISC-V is now globally developed, that ship has sailed. Same for products based on it. The US can't prevent its 'proliferation'. Only reduce the degree to which US entities are part of, and profit from that. Are US lawmakers t…

The practical question is, do US lawmakers believe their voters are that dumb? (Mostly yes)

You don't have to fall back to that. It isn't possible to know all the issues facing national attention. Someone puts in a good/scary story about something and it is really hard to see why that story is wrong. Often the story isn't even wrong, it is just not the complete picture and the evils of what the story misses out on are even worse. There are a bit over 500 people with power in DC, they cannot possibly debate all the possible issues that come up.

China learning from US contributions to Risc-v are not a good thing. However the obvious proposed solution wouldn't stop China from learning (it might delay them a few months, but they have plenty of smart engineers who can figure this out), and so will harm the US more.

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

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The numbers aren't large, but it's worth noting that 7 out of 18 signatories of the original letter received donatations from Intel's PAC in 2022 [0]:

Mike Gallagher: $6000

Marco Rubio: $2500

Haley Stevens: $2000

Carlos Gimenez: $5000

Darin LaHood: $7000

Andy Barr: $2000

Ashley Hinson: $10000

Total: $34500

[0] https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs...

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

#34

It blows my mind that the US keeps treating China, its biggest trade partner, as an enemy. There is no way that China would ever initiate a war against the US. It feels like, if anything, this insistence on treating China as an enemy increases risk for the US.

15 years ago I would have agreed with you. However with XI in power and the way he is turning the country I no longer can agree. XI isn't stupid - he won't start a war tomorrow - but he is building up both the military power needed to start a war in 10 years, and the international political climate to make that less harmful to China if he does.

Only time will tell of course, but right now I'm cautious about China as they may be willing to bite their trade partners in the future.

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

#35

It blows my mind that the US keeps treating China, its biggest trade partner, as an enemy. There is no way that China would ever initiate a war against the US. It feels like, if anything, this insistence on treating China as an enemy increases risk for the US.

The thing that blows my mind is that you're blaming the US for the situation. Google China's behavior in the South China Sea to get an idea of the problem. Or it using trade as retaliation against Australia, Lithuania and others. The list goes on from there.

Trade with China has always thought to be a democratising force, instead US has funded is country that is aggressively arming itself against it and becoming a threat to a civil rules based international order. Your 'no way' sounds pretty naive when the evidence points to China walking the path to exactly that. They have stated in not so many words that they will invade Taiwan, and walk right up to that line on a daily basis, and when that happens China will be at war with the US and the west generally.

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

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The numbers aren't large, but it's worth noting that 7 out of 18 signatories of the original letter received donatations from Intel's PAC in 2022 [0]: Mike Gallagher: $6000 Marco Rubio: $2500 Haley Stevens: $2000 Carlos Gimenez: $5000 Darin LaHood: $7000 Andy Barr: $2000 Ashley Hinson: $10000 Total: $34500 [0] https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs...

I sure hope they aren't that cheap.

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

#38

It's amazing that the move of RISC-V Foundation to Switzerland (as RISC-V International) was actually called for. Even more amazing is US lawmakers continuing to try & shoot the US in the foot. RISC-V is now globally developed, that ship has sailed. Same for products based on it. The US can't prevent its 'proliferation'. Only reduce the degree to which US entities are part of, and profit from that. Are US lawmakers t…

The practical question is, do US lawmakers believe their voters are that dumb? (Mostly yes)

1) - US lawmakers believe

2) - Mostly yes

3) - both

Which one of 3?

Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

#39

The numbers aren't large, but it's worth noting that 7 out of 18 signatories of the original letter received donatations from Intel's PAC in 2022 [0]: Mike Gallagher: $6000 Marco Rubio: $2500 Haley Stevens: $2000 Carlos Gimenez: $5000 Darin LaHood: $7000 Andy Barr: $2000 Ashley Hinson: $10000 Total: $34500 [0] https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs...

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Re: Regarding Proposed US Restrictions on RISC-V

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It's amazing that the move of RISC-V Foundation to Switzerland (as RISC-V International) was actually called for. Even more amazing is US lawmakers continuing to try & shoot the US in the foot. RISC-V is now globally developed, that ship has sailed. Same for products based on it. The US can't prevent its 'proliferation'. Only reduce the degree to which US entities are part of, and profit from that. Are US lawmakers t…

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