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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by Tams80 »

bisby wrote: post #172
wkat4242 wrote: post #127

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Yeah this is the best version. I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring. But I moved to libretube now. Newpipe kept throwing up errors when I jumped around a video.

I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor.…

While they are aggressive, it is optional and you are trying to avoid their revenue source. So there's reason to be so picky.

I just fast-forward or the the sponsorship segments out if they are too annoying.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by bisby »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #222
bisby wrote: post #213

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Right. My issue is that I disagree with what they consider "sponsored sections" sometimes. "Only skip sponsor segments longer than 30 seconds" isn't an option. Long ads that make up most of the video: bad. A brief passing comment about "And thanks to our sponsor for supporting this video" dont need a cut.

that entirely depends on the user contributions. you know its people manually submitting these snippets of what to skip and not automatic?

Yes, I'm aware. I suspect the users who contribute tend to fall into the category of "The host saying 'and now a word from our sponsor' or explaining that 'today we are using product X so don't be surprised when the video is different' is part of the sponsorship" because I expect that people who contribute self select into people who are very anti-anything sponsor related ... I prefer having that left in, so that the sudden cut is at least expected.

My issue is less with the tool and more with the user contributions. But until there are alternative sources for sponsorblock that fit my preferences, it seems like the options are "don't use it at all" or "use it and be frustrated from time to time". I don't really care who is at fault, I'm not trying to point fingers, I'm just saying that I understand where NewPipe is coming from. Not everyone has to agree on whether all sponsor spots are good or bad.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by bisby »

ryncewynd wrote: post #221
bisby wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor.…

What's the channel that does ad reads to demo microphone quality? That's such a simple and genius idea

The tom scott one was one example I was thinking of... With the sponsor segment clipped out, that video lacks a LOT of context.

The main one I was thinking of was Senpai Gaming. He does reviews of microphones and streamer equipment. He just released a video of the new Shure SM7dB mic where he does the sponsor read on the new mic.

Recently, he reviewed the new Elgato teleprompter. During which he read the ad read from the teleprompter as a means of demonstrating how the eyecontact looks/feels while reading text from the prompter. It feels like a legit test for a teleprompter to be able to demo it as such. The problem is. He says that he is going to demo 4 things about the prompter and the first one is simply reading text. And then he starts to say "And we're going to do that by sharing the sponsor of today's video"... But it sponsorblock cuts it as "And we're going to" and then it cuts to point 2. Had sponsorblock cut that after he said "sponsor" I would have at least known what was going on, but a random mid sentence cut... I feel like the Sponsorblock contributors self select to be the most rabid anti-sponsor people out there. Sponsorships are pure evil and we shouldn't have to even hear words next to the sponsorship. I understand why NewPipe disagrees and wants to differentiate between good and bad and not just "everything bad".

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by bisby »

wkat4242 wrote: post #290
bisby wrote: post #172

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I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor.…

Sponsorblock depends on the users specifying which parts are which of course. It's not some kind of AI. It's not perfect but I want to have the choice.

Wasn't trying to suggest it was AI. I'm aware it's crowd sourced. But in the end, I disagree with the crowd sourcing most of the time, so regardless of if it's a single person, crowd sourced, AI, or anything else... it doesn't cut things where I want it to in a lot of cases.

And I'm pretty sure that the type of person who would spend time submitting the timestamps is probably a person who also is aggressively anti-ads/sponsorships, so is probably aggressive in their timestamps, which is fine, but it makes me gravitate towards agreeing with NewPipe on "not everything is pure evil" more than the sponsorblock submitters.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by earthling8118 »

monadINtop wrote: post #157

It will never be as good as Youtube Vanced (god rest it's soul) but it gets the job done, despite the occasional bug

The app functionality definitely isn't as good, but the installation process for Vanced was abysmal. NewPipe just installs itself and is good to go. That has a lot of value.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by mixmastamyk »

aantix wrote: post #215
krupan wrote: post #212

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Just block YouTube, your kids will find other things to do. If you find a good video then watch it with them on your device

Feels like an opportunity lost. I want them to explore on their own, including online content. I just want the topics for videos to be more diverse.

YT is built to pigeon-hole, profile, and surveil the user; diversity of content is not a goal. Despite the wide library.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by mixmastamyk »

tomrod wrote: post #287
hxii wrote: post #239

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The parent comment was a suggestion for an iOS alternative. Why did you feel the urge to push unsolicited advice? I honestly don’t get it.

Currently, iOS is a substandard platform for software freedom. While it has done a fairly decent job implementing a good user interface, it comes at the cost of freedom on mobile devices, leaving users and developers to the capricious whims of a single company. When that company decides to break encryption for any external group, is eventually hacked, or other myriad of other single single failure node situations occ…

Mobian et al is the alternative, not surveillanceOS.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by weeblewobble »

echelon wrote: post #332
Rastonbury wrote: post #321

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I actually like it being aggressive, the fewer minutes of my life I spend on content of questionable value the better, I already watch too much youtube for my own good and never find rewinding back through a skipped section worth it

This is a good perspective. What did you actually miss? Is your life worse for it?

Might as well skip the whole video!
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