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Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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AM: morning, PM: afternoon/evening

Yeah, but this is the problem - why noon is "afternoon"?

Noon isn't really before or after noon, but we want to lump it together with one of them, so we picked the one that made 12:00 and 12:01 go together. (Edit: or for that matter, 12:00:00 and 12:00:01, down to arbitrary closeness, as sibling comment points out)

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Same with European Portuguese, I can’t actually use Siri or any voice controlled software because I refuse to speak in Brazilian Portuguese. It is so unnatural (frankly I don’t know how), I would just prefer to speak English.

Fewer than 5% of native speakers are Portuguese...

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Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

Your last sentence is hinting on something that actually has more bearing on technology effecting language: HTML. When I was first learning HTML & CSS it irked me to have to spell "colour" wrong to get things working. Now I just use the US American spelling everywhere (it helps that I'm currently in the US).

That’s still not as bad as having to spell referrer wrong in http headers where it’s spelled “referer”... which is incorrect for every flavo(u)r of English.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

My native language (and I imagine many others) didn't have any localized version of Word until the late 90s and I (and I imagine many others, even people who didn't speak English at all) got used to using English words like "Save", "Italic", "bullets" etc.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Word is a tool, and any tool we use changes the way we see the world and interact with it. Hammer –> nails and all that.

I'd say the article missed the mark by focusing on features, especially spellcheck/autocorrect.

It's like some sort of cognitive blindness: I mean, the article has a photo with typists at the office and yet it competely ignores the transformation that an engine/platform – a computer – with a tool – a word processor – had on the way language is used in business, leisure, creative and, of course, language work (anything from print or editing to business memos).

A hammer can have a flavor, but it's still a hammer. This article focuses on the objectionable and weak flavor of MS Word while ignoring the wider implications of a digital word processor.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

Your last sentence is hinting on something that actually has more bearing on technology effecting language: HTML. When I was first learning HTML & CSS it irked me to have to spell "colour" wrong to get things working. Now I just use the US American spelling everywhere (it helps that I'm currently in the US).

'Colour' in Am-Eng is not wrong though.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

> Of course, it is worth remembering that Word isn't just available in English. It supports around 100 languages, including European Spanish and Latin-American Spanish.

(from TFA)

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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I’m Dutch, and the ways autocorrect changes my language, and I guess the German language as well, is not so subtle. We have a rule that when something is one “thing” like a “biophysics group”, we make it one word (Biofysicagroep). But almost any form of autocorrect will split these words. I’m really tired of correcting it all the time and I guess many others with me.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last sentence is hinting on something that actually has more bearing on technology effecting language: HTML. When I was first learning HTML & CSS it irked me to have to spell "colour" wrong to get things working. Now I just use the US American spelling everywhere (it helps that I'm currently in the US).

'Colour' in Am-Eng is not wrong though.

It's wrong in HTML, which is what matters.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Certainly when it comes to computer software causing language to change far outside the sphere of computing terms, TikTok takes the cake, with words like "unalive" joining the real-world lexicon: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/08/algospe... is a fascinating read for those unfamiliar with Gen Z jargon.

But the OP article briefly raises an interesting point by way of linking to and quoting https://www.jstor.org/stable/40171308 :

> Analysis of the screen recording data revealed that students were more apt to make microstructural rather than macrostructural changes to their work and that they continuously revised at all stages of their writing.

The idea that we can easily make non-append-only changes to our text simply by moving a mouse or trackpad may very well change how we think about language.

A less severe version, perhaps, of the phenomenon in the movie Arrival and Ted Chiang's novella Story of Your Life (highly worth a read, and easily accessible with a quick search), where learning an alien language changes a person's entire outlook on - well, to minimize spoilers, every aspect of how life is lived.

Perhaps, insofar as I typed the word "perhaps" after I wrote the rest of the forthcoming sentence... we already live in a world where something like this has transpired.

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