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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Because you could just seek over them?

Yes, but the server knows exactly what frames it has sent you and when. If you don't want to watch the ad frames there's nothing the server can do, but it can make sure to not send you the frame that comes after the ad, until the 10 seconds of the ad has passed since it sent you the last frame before the ad.

So basically you would disallow pre-buffering more than an ad's worth of video? I'm not sure about that...

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post #258

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If you get people hooked by being free you can't be surprised they want it to be free

It's still free, you're not paying for anything.

I would rather not watch anything than watch ads. The cost of watching ads is my sanity.

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post #98

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That works for pre-roll ads, forcing the client to silence them and wait at best (I believe the Twitch streaming service does this) For mid-stream ads, that doesn't work. You could pre-fetch the ad and surrounding video early, so that you can watch buffered content while the server thinks an ad is playing.

The server would need to not allow buffering further than the next ad.

Ok, but now you see, it would be a bit more involved than just splicing together static byte streams that even a dumb CDN can accomplish.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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I've been using this on android for more than 6 years. Love being able to quickly download a local copy of video or music as I'm boarding a flight or train. Highly recommend getting it using fdroid instead of apk because there have been points when youtube made changes that break the app and you'll need to get the latest update

Highly recommend the NewPipe upstream repository within F-Droid, they usually fix breakage right away whereas F-Droid repository version can be a few days behind.

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Highly recommend using F-Droid-capable phones/mobile support systems. Perhaps one day the iOS ecosystem will recognize the economic value of democratizing the platform, but until that day it's better to use open source software and as open of hardware as possible.

I think they are going to be forced to open the platform soon, per the new Digital Markets Act by the EU.

Once again, the EU does something right for it's citizens in the face of exploitative practices.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Highly recommend using F-Droid-capable phones/mobile support systems. Perhaps one day the iOS ecosystem will recognize the economic value of democratizing the platform, but until that day it's better to use open source software and as open of hardware as possible.

The parent comment was a suggestion for an iOS alternative. Why did you feel the urge to push unsolicited advice? I honestly don’t get it.

Currently, iOS is a substandard platform for software freedom. While it has done a fairly decent job implementing a good user interface, it comes at the cost of freedom on mobile devices, leaving users and developers to the capricious whims of a single company. When that company decides to break encryption for any external group, is eventually hacked, or other myriad of other single single failure node situations occur, the collateral damage is massive.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Paying $1 to a creator earn them more than all the ads you would watch during your lifetime. Applies to websites also. But noone wants to pay.

I pay. People pay, stop saying no one wants to pay, it's wrong. One example that comes in mind is Wikipedia: no ads, people pay.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #249

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It's the old problem of I don't care about anything that you advertised to me, don't care about most of the content that is eating your budget and simply won't stand for being called a criminal after being the reason you are a thing in the first place. You're trying to get my money, I'm trying to get your content. We both cheat. That's always been the game.

So if a store is trying to sell products, and you try to steal them, you are both cheating?

This a a very different situation. Stores are selling products or services, and they explicitly put prices on the products.

Content available freely online is much different, as there is no price and at best the hope is that the consumer sees an ad or sponsorship and that the content creator has accurate analytics as to how many saw the ads.

Your analogy would be more akin to someone stealing access to paywalled content somehow. In that case a price was put on the content and someone took if anyway, much like shoplifting.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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post #172

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Yeah this is the best version. I liked newpipe but their attitude to sponsorblock is tiring. But I moved to libretube now. Newpipe kept throwing up errors when I jumped around a video.

I use sponsorblock on desktop, and sometimes I find the parts that they skip annoying. I don't fully agree with where and when they skip things. Watching Hot Ones today, they had a segment about how they have Hot Ones Hot Pockets now. and it skipped over it. But also, the hot pockets were a big part of the episode. For LTT videos, they skip the entire segue, instead of leaving the segue and then skipping the sponsor.…

Sponsorblock depends on the users specifying which parts are which of course. It's not some kind of AI.

It's not perfect but I want to have the choice.

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