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Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by julianeon »

dieselgate wrote: post #76
abecode wrote: post #36

I went to a conference in Nara last year and at one of the receptions I told a Japanese attendee that I was sorry to hear about the assassination. I joked that my name is pronounced Abe like Abe Lincoln, not like Shinzo Abe. He kind of shrugged and said it would be kind of like if it had happened to Trump in the US, in that there were a lot of of people that didn't like him. The article makes it seem like people disc…

Not getting into politics at all but I imagine it'd be utter chaos if anything similar were to happen to Trump, that's an interesting perspective to hear though.

This comment made me realize that when Trump passes there will 100% be a conspiracy about it, no matter the cause.

For the average American man who is Trump's age (77) the chance of dying in that same year is about 5%, according to the Social Security Administration's Actuarial Life Table.

This is a stat which only goes in one direction - up - over time. It's at 6.5% at 80, 18% at 90, and a sobering 38% at 100.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by User23 »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #180
User23 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You obviously have a lot of emotional baggage here and it’s keeping you from making much sense.

I'm simply stating facts about religious mutilation as an impartial outsider who has never mutilated their own body or others'. I can understand why you might not like facts given your likely upbringing within a fact-denying community, but facts are what the rest of the world use as the grounding of a common framework for understanding.

Thank you for today's shining example of "not even wrong."

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Post by cool_dude85 »

AniseAbyss wrote: post #39
graphe wrote: post #38

The sushi trade is unable to be separated from the moonies. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/05/magazine/sush... that will be Moon's legacy I know from personal experience that many Koreans who own sushi restaurants are part of this cult, they knew each other at church all donated a lot and the only reason I know is that my friend dated a girl whose parents were part of it.

The CIA involvement in spreading Christianity through Asia is not something that is talked about enough. It reminded me of the Bene Gesserit.

Do you have a book rec on this? The story I always heard about Korea specifically was a lot of missionary organizations being there during and after the war and genuinely offering a lot of support.

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

midasuni wrote: post #110
dmonitor wrote: post #88

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If Trump died, and in the aftermath it was revealed he had ties to a Chinese cult, his only remaining supporters would probably be the cult-like reality deniers.

The ones that almost triggered an insurrection and civil war a couple of years ago?

Civil war? Really? That. Ever almost happened. Dont be dramatic

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Post by ChainOfFools »

philwelch wrote: post #142
throwaway128128 wrote: post #119

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Oh, TIL. I've noticed Newsweek's decline. Lots of flame-fanning.

Newsweek infamously relaunched itself in 2014 with a dramatic story falsely accusing a Japanese man living in California of being Satoshi Nakamoto. So it’s not exactly a credible outlet. FWIW, the owner of Newsweek at the time wasn’t the Moonies, but rather David Jang, who is an evangelical Presbyterian. Things have apparently gotten complicated since then, with a change in ownership and then Newsweek itself reportin…

Well considering that was actually the guy's name (Dorian S. Nakamoto, S being Satoshi) it wasn't exactly false, just a very weak form of true.

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by fatbird »

ls612 wrote: post #40
fatbird wrote: post #27

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The comparison between South Korea and Israel isn't very strong. America fought the Korean War and still has 28,500 troops stationed there, along with a combined forces command. Some US soldiers are stationed right on the border with North Korea, just so that a North Korean invasion will kill Americans and immediately trigger an American response. Secondarily, securing Korea as a trading partner for Japan was an expl…

Forcing Korea and Japan to play nice with each other was also an explicit policy to try to bury historical grievances.

True, to which I can only say "lol".

Re: Shinzo Abe's Assassination

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Post by htss2013 »

api wrote: post #99
throwaway128128 wrote: post #98

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The Moonies have woven themselves into the American right wing for decades. Reagan said the Washington Times, which is an organ of the Unification Church, was his favorite newspaper. You can see Falun Gong attempting the same in the United States. The Epoch Times is Falun Gong's "media outlet" and it sponsors and shapes a lot of content online. It's all bankrolled by Shen Yun performances too. These rabbit holes go t…

Lately I’ve seen tons and tons of anti trans content that actually says sponsored by the Epoch Times. I’ve see it on Facebook and Xitter. I don’t get why that issue is so important to them. Maybe scaring people about trans people is just broadly working. Gotta fear monger or people might notice that most of our candidates are incompetent. Republicans are unelectable without scaring people about LGBT people and immigr…

>Republicans are unelectable without scaring people about LGBT people and immigrants, while Democrats are unelectable without scaring people about Republicans. That seems to be the dynamic right now.

That was the dynamic. Now with NYC, Chicago, etc. being overwhelmed with migrant inflows, and Dem mayors like in NYC and Chicago declaring emergencies, do we really need Republican fear mongering to scare people about unregulated migration?

If politicians try to gaslight people that obvious problems aren't real, that can make the opposition electable all on its own.

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Post by defen »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #115

> A third son, Hyung Jin “Sean” Moon, founded a separate, gun-centered church in Pennsylvania known as Rod of Iron Ministries, where followers do target practice with AR-15s and bring guns to church to be blessed. Hyung Jin wears a golden crown made of rifle shells, and delivers hate-filled sermons against the Democratic Party. He also expects to become the king of America. He reviles his mother—who runs the internat…

Another son (Justin) owns a small arms manufacturer (Kahr Arms)
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