I wanted to listen to youtube videos while working out. Couldn't figure out the default youtube player to let me do that. This worked first time I tried. Supper happy. Thanks.
NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android
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#182I found NP was having trouble keeping up, meanwhile youtube revanced has been amazing.
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Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.
The human ability to rationalise blocking out sponsored advertising is basically infinite.
Why would people watch things they don’t like?
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#184I need a replacement for baconreader if there's something in the vein
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> The vast majority of people do not pirate I would be happy to see a serious study about this. What you call piracy has been the norm for centuries and millenia for spreading culture and reinterpreting music/shows produced by other people. In the vast majority of the world (including in the global north), the budget you have for culture is low (if any) and when you have people with a computer, copying stuff is very…
this is a misleading reply because you ignore the speed and scale at which the internet allows sharing to happen. In the past, the speed of sharing was limited by communication at the time, either word of mouth, the speed of printing books etc. If what you describe truly was the norm, then creating any sort of content for any reason would generate negative returns. This was and is rarely the case. I do not see it as…
> If what you describe truly was the norm, then creating any sort of content for any reason would generate negative returns.
Piracy doesn't always hurt creators, and often it helps them make money. The people who pirate the most, also spend the most money on the things they pirate (https://torrentfreak.com/pirates-are-valuable-customers-not-...). Just because something is pirated that does not mean there was a loss of income for the creator. I've pirated things and enjoyed them enough that I purchased them later, and I've purchased physical copies of things and later pirated digital copies. I've also pirated things I'd never have purchased at all which means there was never any chance of any of my money going to the creator.
The vast majority of people today pirate all the time. Posting a meme that contains a copyrighted character or image, or listening to a song on youtube from anything other than an official channel, sharing a webcomic over social media, creating a GIF from a movie or TV show, streaming a video game playthrough, and downloading a youtube video to edit into a reaction video are all technically violations of copyright law. Copyright law is so draconian that what most people consider totally normal activities online are violations.
> I do not see it as unfair for content creators to be paid and to demand that you consume their content on their terms, within reason.
I agree that creators have a right for a chance at payment for their work. I disagree that I have no right to choose how to consume that content. Most of the restrictions on how media is intended to be consumed comes from the corporations who own the copyright and not the creators themselves.
When creators make it known that they want their content consumed in a certain way I'll take it into consideration. Musicians who ask that you only ever listen to their albums in their entirety and never listen to a single track I ignore. When Dave Chappelle asked fans to not watch Chappelle's Show I agreed and didn't.
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I wonder if a torrent style equivalent for bandwidth sharing for things like YouTube content creators could work. Like you get ads unless you seed enough and then no ads when you consume. I think it'd only work as a near seamless ui experience and not actually using torrents or any extra setup or complications. Probably branded a bit differently.
Bandwidth costs money, YouTube can probably do it cheaper than end users at scale. But this isn’t about reduced bandwidth expenses, this is about maximising profit extraction.
> But this isn’t about reduced bandwidth expenses, this is about maximising profit extraction.
Arent these goals one and the same?
Profit maximization is required under a capitalist system. By optimizig bandwidth expenses, you are achieving profit maximization.
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Not yet! The EU’s Digital Markets Act will go into force soon.
True! Unfortunately, I fully expect Apple to keep alternate app stores locked out in other locales. I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong, but they've been so determined in fighting this that it seems likely they'll consider it to be worth the extra work.
a 30% profit margin business for barely any real work/capital investment, this is a business they will fight for.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.
I see two scenarios: 1. The computer doesn't know whether you skipped the ad, and won't feel bad when you do. 2. The computer does track whether you watch the ad segment, and that information makes it back to the advertiser. Personally, I wouldn't want to support "creators" spying on me in this way. In either case, the creator has no costs for you watching, and youtube has lower costs if you skip the sponsored segmen…
> In either case, the creator has no costs for you watching, and youtube has lower costs if you skip the sponsored segment.
I'm pretty sure the youtuber gets money from google for views even if you don't view their sponsored content section (if someone knows better please let me know) and Google makes money by collecting data on what you watch, how often, when, using what device, from what IP address, etc.
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#190I've been using this for years to download YouTube videos when I go on trips, it makes it super easy since you can just share the link directly from YouTube to NewPipe and it'll pop up a neat download UI to select quality and threads to use. Really great app for that purpose, although I will say I just used ReVanced for general YouTube browsing on my phone.
I believe the one thing i see lacking for newpipe is viewing livestreams. Revanced is the way to go for a good youtube experience, but i use newpipe for downloading and saving a video offline.
I've watched livestreams in newpipe. A few hours after it ended I used new pipe again to download the whole thing to see the parts I missed (new pipe wouldn't let me rewind to the start of the livestream after I joined)