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Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by poink »

micw wrote: post #45
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

If you’re not going to buy the sponsored product you’re just wasting time and bandwidth by watching the sponsor segment

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#102

Post by poink »

endisneigh wrote: post #71
micw wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

People want content without any inconvenience, it’s that simple. If they use ads they will block. If they ask for payment they will pirate. Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

> Luckily these people are the minority or there would be no content to begin with

There is a whole galaxy of content creators who make great stuff but clearly aren’t making a living directly off content.

People like making content for tons of reasons.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

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Post by Aachen »

falcor84 wrote: post #99

It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

- So long as they give their sole custom to Google/Youtube and don't support other platforms in any way, even though it's trivial to upload an mp4 onto another platform and set the title and description same as yt, I don't feel too bad being in a tiny fraction of a minority that doesn't want to have a Google account in order to 'smash' the like button. There's no least evil to be picked here, no market forces at play, it's using google or bust. On the whole, I feel alright not supporting that choice, though part of me also feels as you do of course.

- It's also not as though you're upvoting/liking videos other than theirs, so they won't rank lower because you didn't support them.

- I'm sure the folks at google figured out that watching a video is already a sign of the content being interesting. When using the official (web) player, it clearly uses this to generate recommendations (to many people's frustration)

- You can always share videos with friends or on Mastodon etc. where appropriate, that draws more eyeballs than a passive thumbs up button anyway and thus helps the creator more

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#104

Post by ggrelet »

miki123211 wrote: post #89
Unfrozen0688 wrote: post #81

Another reason why Android is the superior phone OS.

iOS has Yattee[1]. It's technically a personal video-watching app, not a Youtube app, which you're supposed to link with your own personal video server, but the server APIs it is compatible with are the same APIs that are exposed by Invidious and Newpipe instances. This is not a coincidence. I'm sure Apple is going to delist it from the App Store at some point (App Store guidelines are just that, guidelines, and ther…

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#105

Post by charcircuit »

Nextgrid wrote: post #84
micw wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I do not understand why one should use this. I have recently seen some high quality YT videos, each of a length of 30-60 minutes. In those videos where some sponsors mentioned which took only one or two minutes. Seems perfectly OK for me to support the creators. I guess if many people block sponsor content, this kind of vids will die.

If you watch YouTube enough you'll basically become aware of all the sponsors pretty quickly (and may even be a customer of some already!), so any exposure beyond that is a waste of time for all involved - if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

>if I didn't buy the product after seeing it 10 times, I won't buy it after seeing it the 11th either.

There is still value to the sponser in keeping a brand fresh in your mind

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#106

Post by karlzt »

m-p-3 wrote: post #94
DrNosferatu wrote: post #12

Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

There is also LibreTube that comes with SponsorBlock https://libretube.dev/

And PipePipe

https://codeberg.org/NullPointerException/PipePipe

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#107

Post by nine_k »

Aachen wrote: post #103
falcor84 wrote: post #99

It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

- So long as they give their sole custom to Google/Youtube and don't support other platforms in any way, even though it's trivial to upload an mp4 onto another platform and set the title and description same as yt, I don't feel too bad being in a tiny fraction of a minority that doesn't want to have a Google account in order to 'smash' the like button. There's no least evil to be picked here, no market forces at play…

What is the other platform you suggest for video uploads? Vimeo? Facebook? Twitch?

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#108

Post by judge2020 »

asimops wrote: post #58
judge2020 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

I have zero issues with paying in general. What I don't see, is me paying for the worse service. Youtube Premium is 12.99€ a month for me. For that small price I get to create a Google Account, accept their TOS, let them track and profile me, keep logging in everywhere (because I delete all local storage in the browser routinely) and replace the small and efficient NewPipe with the Youtube app. Futhermore I cannot do…

Those are the terms YouTube sets out when providing you with the service. You can either pay for it (as the terms set out), watch with ads (as the terms set out), or not watch it. All other use is effectively piracy, and they have the legal and arguably moral* right to block you for not following it.

* Yes, it does cost them money to serve and store videos, and no that doesn't disappear with scale. YouTube ingests hundreds of thousands of hours of video a day, and chances are every single video is on at least 2 continents at any given time. They don't get some insane volume price on the enterprise HDDs they use.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#109

Post by jrflowers »

tomrod wrote: post #28
scosman wrote: post #4

For iOS users, check out “yattee” for a similar setup

Highly recommend using F-Droid-capable phones/mobile support systems. Perhaps one day the iOS ecosystem will recognize the economic value of democratizing the platform, but until that day it's better to use open source software and as open of hardware as possible.

This is good advice. If you own an iOS device you should consider not owning an iOS device.

Re: NewPipe – Lightweight YouTube experience for Android

#110

Post by xigoi »

endisneigh wrote: post #63
judge2020 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it with the disdain for paying for services people use? People often don't feel like paying for it even if they use YouTube more than other streaming services combined. Maybe the issue is that people got so used to a decade of unlimited high-quality videos for absolutely free?

People will always rationalize their not paying. Tracking, ethics, whatever. Anything other than abstaining from use, lol.

I'd gladly not use YouTube if the creators uploaded their videos somewhere else.
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