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Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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In regards to the arrogance... I imagine they have to be like that in order to be able to sleep at night, they justify the scamming by saying (mostly to themselves) things like the West stole from the developing countries, so this is them stealing back, and they have to believe the victims deserve it so they can, I repeat, sleep at night. Another justification might be "Look at this stupid moron, I won't feel bad ste…

What? That's a ridiculous, patronizing, borderline racist comment. Most of the scammers in the video had thick accents, but if from that you conclude that scammers in general are "non western", that's at best a dumb conclusion, at worst a racist one. I don't know details of Kitboga's scammers' demographics, but there is no logical reason to assume the proportion of scammers in the West is any different than in other…

> but there is no logical reason to assume the proportion of scammers in the West is any different than in other places of the world.

Most tech support spam calls come from India. That's just a fact.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-insider/tech-support-sca...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/magazine/scam-call-center...

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #111

The part where someone waits for a super long time in a queue, finally gets connected, but then gets sent to an answering machine that says "the mailbox is full" hit too close to home. I know this was set up on purpose but I've had that exact same thing happen to me on a real & important government system recently. I've been trying to call California EDD to get some back pay for my state paid family leave. There is n…

FWIW, when I had to get in touch with EDD several years ago and had absolutely no luck calling the main number, I eventually got through with the foreign language numbers. They’re generally staffed higher in proportion to the number of callers they get. IIRC, Vietnamese was the one with the best ratio, though that may have changed in the years since I looked into it. It can be tricky to make it through the automated…

Best hack I’ve read on this site in quite a while!

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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I'd rather do assembler than CSS.

Assembler does what you tell it. CSS is like trying to build a pile of angry turtles.

peter_griffin_css_blinds.gif

This is a very apt description of dealing with CSS. And each time a new feature launches your job is to stack the turtles one level higher.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #32

Scammers vs Impossible Password Game [1] is also great to watch. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knhQ2f8anT8

This is staged right? Right??

I've seen over 100 of Kit's videos and they are definitely not staged and it's all improv'd from Kit's side.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #157

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You have to accept that they might actually cancel the account, and deal with the inconvenience of actually switching (which may be worth it anyway).

Not really you can usually back out before finally pulling the trigger.

I tried that bluff with a cable company once and they put me on hold for a bit, I thought it was to transfer me to retention department so I can get a sweet discount. Then the rep comes back on and said “Ok I canceled your account. Anything else i can do?”

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? That's a ridiculous, patronizing, borderline racist comment. Most of the scammers in the video had thick accents, but if from that you conclude that scammers in general are "non western", that's at best a dumb conclusion, at worst a racist one. I don't know details of Kitboga's scammers' demographics, but there is no logical reason to assume the proportion of scammers in the West is any different than in other…

> but there is no logical reason to assume the proportion of scammers in the West is any different than in other places of the world. Most tech support spam calls come from India. That's just a fact. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-insider/tech-support-sca... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/magazine/scam-call-center...

Please look up the population of India, then re-read my comment, paying attention to one word in particular: proportion.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #111

The part where someone waits for a super long time in a queue, finally gets connected, but then gets sent to an answering machine that says "the mailbox is full" hit too close to home. I know this was set up on purpose but I've had that exact same thing happen to me on a real & important government system recently. I've been trying to call California EDD to get some back pay for my state paid family leave. There is n…

As a generally left leaning government trusting Silicon Valley tech bro, the California PFL nightmare has been so awful it has been enough to at least instill thoughts of moving to live off grid in Idaho and starting an anti government … group

Wanting a large government and wanting a government to work well are not mutually exclusive. The worst thing about dealing with EDD is that no matter how poorly run their services are and no matter how much the staff are uselessly unhelpful, they all still have jobs and you don’t. It is a really unpleasant way to spend the day after your company announces that you and everyone else no longer have jobs there.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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IMO this is way better than what the other scambaiter Pierogi did recently. I'm refering to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUHFpfVPUYc In the beginning it seems okay, have a bunch of people pretend to be victims and waste scammers time, but later on with starting to deploy malware and zero-days, spying on people with their web cam... Just because scammers break the law doesn't mean we have to stoop to th…

I would condone anything short of strangling the life out of them with one's bare hands. Clearly you've never known someone who's been preyed up on by these animals.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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post #68

Not much sympathy for these scammers but I do wonder how desperate some of them have to be to waste so much time on a couple hundred bitcoin max.

> but I do wonder how desperate some of them have to be to waste so much time on a couple hundred bitcoin max. Its part of the same reason so many fall for scams in the first place. They start spending the money (or whatever the reward is) before they have it and ignore any red flags to the contrary.

Depends on the scam. Tech support scams are very different from get rich quick scams.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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There should be a software product that protects our elderly by watching their bank accounts and listens to their phone calls. It’s so clearly a scam.

Tbf the bank thing is already a thing in a very limited capacity, but at some point the scammers figure out a bypass. The phone call thing is interesting but I wouldn't want an AI having all of my phone calls and it'll be hard to convince people to use it since everyone thinks they won't be scammed - better spend that time educating about scams instead. It'll also be much easier to bypass than the bank detection thin…

I always always never blame the people getting scammed and instead focus on system failures.

The fact that phone calls cannot be verified. Why can’t we design a system that can eye ball scan you before you call and verify that you really work for Microsoft. Or verify that I’m pinging off USA cell towers.

For example with the robocall issue the ftc actually implemented system solutions. Why don’t we put it on the ftc to also fix this issue?!

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