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Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent, but I presume they are referring to his philanthropy.

Entertain my audience and make me $1 million and I'll give you $500k philanthropy?

His philanthropy channel has millions of views on each video with 100% of the advertisement revenue, brand deals, and merchandise sales donated to charity. He also runs a non-profit that does charity work.

I'm not here to convince anyone that he's a hero (or not). I just think his philanthropy is what the original comment was referring to.

>make me $1 million and I'll give you $500k philanthropy?

Even if it was just the equivalent of donating half his earnings, that's significantly more than I think most people do.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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To experience what a call center trap is, just call GoDaddy with a technical problem, if they have no clue or seem to be wasting time hang and call again, repeat until and random support person actually knows what you are talking about. Or even better, stop using GoDaddy as I did.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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The part where someone waits for a super long time in a queue, finally gets connected, but then gets sent to an answering machine that says "the mailbox is full" hit too close to home. I know this was set up on purpose but I've had that exact same thing happen to me on a real & important government system recently. I've been trying to call California EDD to get some back pay for my state paid family leave. There is n…

For the literal 98% of the world who don't know these acronyms:

EDD: Employment Development Department, appears to be some sort of job seeker assistance group? PFL: Paid Family Leave - Maternity/Paternity or carer style leave.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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Anyone remember the anti-scammer phone bot that pretended to be a senile old man ('Lemmy' or something)? It waited for the scammer to stop talking, and then said some statement (either a question or some really long rambling story), simultaneously hilarious and expertly crafted to keep the conversation going, often for hours, until it would start repeating itself and the scammer would blow up. It was a bit smarter th…

Yes, I know the gentleman who created Lenny in Queensland. He's a senior exec these days, so I don't think he likes associating himself with it, but get a few XXXX's in him and you'll hear all the stories.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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The part where someone waits for a super long time in a queue, finally gets connected, but then gets sent to an answering machine that says "the mailbox is full" hit too close to home. I know this was set up on purpose but I've had that exact same thing happen to me on a real & important government system recently. I've been trying to call California EDD to get some back pay for my state paid family leave. There is n…

I feel for you about EDD. They still owe us several thousand dollars in unemployment due to a pandemic layoff but I gave up on it after a similar experience to what you’re describing.

Have you tried sending paper mail? Usually you just need a position in the pile.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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Not much sympathy for these scammers but I do wonder how desperate some of them have to be to waste so much time on a couple hundred bitcoin max.

A lot of these might be employees with quotas to beat. There are literally companies set up with physical call centers and employed people specializing in doing scams. I've been thinking if some of these people actually understand they are scamming others, or just following some sort of run book they know little about.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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I love Kitboda's videos. The one thing that strikes me all the time is how arrogant, smug, full of themselves these scammers always sound. They do profoundly believe they're oh-so-intelligent and don't hesitate to make fun of the old people they (think they) are speaking to. Despicable scum of this earth. Thanks to Kitboga for fighting the good fight and it's great to see banks and crypto-exchanges immediately freezi…

In regards to the arrogance... I imagine they have to be like that in order to be able to sleep at night, they justify the scamming by saying (mostly to themselves) things like the West stole from the developing countries, so this is them stealing back, and they have to believe the victims deserve it so they can, I repeat, sleep at night. Another justification might be "Look at this stupid moron, I won't feel bad ste…

What? That's a ridiculous, patronizing, borderline racist comment.

Most of the scammers in the video had thick accents, but if from that you conclude that scammers in general are "non western", that's at best a dumb conclusion, at worst a racist one. I don't know details of Kitboga's scammers' demographics, but there is no logical reason to assume the proportion of scammers in the West is any different than in other places of the world.

This is really the kind of absurdly tone deaf, entitled comment that turns me off the most in HN - West uber alles.

Re: I trapped scammers in an impossible maze [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought a lot of them don't even know they are running scams, and that is all coming down from the top. They are barely paid phone workers just doing scripts and doing what they are told just so they can feed their families.

Don't bring white guilt into this. Desperation doesn't excuse depravity, nor should it. On the other end of the phone call are people being forced into the same position of desperation through deception. That's their reward for a lifetime of presumably- honest work. The noble savages aren't that dumb either. These aren't credit default swaps so abstracted from the underlying assets that the product's toxicity is unre…

I have very similar morals to you, although I'm white and privileged like most of us.

Yet I could definitely convince myself to "make these rich biggots pay" for my family ends meet, especially if I lived in some shithole without much hope for improvement. Heck, privileged people have been convinced of worse.

It's not "white guilt", it's perspective.

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