And with no evidence that it causes cancer.
Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
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Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#22The idea of punitive damages being awarded to a single person in a situation like this seems unjust on its own. If Roundup is responsible for this person's cancer, it's almost certainly responsible for the cancer of many other people, alive and dead. Clearly I am not a lawyer, but in cases of such a finding, I feel like there ought to be some mechanism to identify an affected class, and make proceeds benefit that cla…
Reforming how class actions are done is probably a very good idea. But Bayer has a market capitalization of over 45 billion. This judgement will probably get appealed and negotiated down. And if it isn't, there is a lot of value in Bayer to pay out in a class action if one succeeds.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#23America suddenly suying after Monsanto was bought by a European company, Bayer. What a coincidence!
Are you claiming a lawsuit shouldn’t take place?
I dont care, Bayer shall be sued as much as they can, as they were the engineers of the holocaust[1][2][3], but claiming that the US sues Bayer because they really care about corporations fucking up the health of their people, while 9/11 first responders with lung cancer etc. are thrown under the bus, and not because they exercise a trade war with the EU to this day is wrong imo.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monowitz_concentration_camp
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#24America suddenly suying after Monsanto was bought by a European company, Bayer. What a coincidence!
It is fairly funny, I remember how Monsanto used to run paid comments over every big news subreddit you posted stuff about them, then the moment they got acquired suddenly those stopped and Monsanto is evil.
Not saying they aren't but I trust them more now under a German firm than when they were American.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#25People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.
He was using glyphosate as a weed-killer and getting it on his hands and feet. Way higher levels of exposure than any foods. Also if you're afraid of glyphosate, the Roundup-ready crops are the ones to avoid especially - soy, corn, canola, sugar beets. There's no Roundup-ready wheat, oats, or nuts. (edit: apparently it's used as a desiccant so it winds up in cereals as well - lovely, though still there's no evidence…
Roundup is used to dessicate some crops to make harvesting more efficient.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#26Doubt they even blinked, these companies hire people to calculate risk and so they can continue to get away with it. Just a cost of business. Bayer's gross revenue for just 2022 was 53.4B. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/BAYRY/bayer/revenu...
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Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#27People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.
He was using glyphosate as a weed-killer and getting it on his hands and feet. Way higher levels of exposure than any foods. Also if you're afraid of glyphosate, the Roundup-ready crops are the ones to avoid especially - soy, corn, canola, sugar beets. There's no Roundup-ready wheat, oats, or nuts. (edit: apparently it's used as a desiccant so it winds up in cereals as well - lovely, though still there's no evidence…
Glyphosate is sometimes used a pre-harvest dessicant with cereal crops like wheat in which case the Roundup Ready gene is not required.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#28America suddenly suying after Monsanto was bought by a European company, Bayer. What a coincidence!
Also totally a coincidence this started during the protectionist Trump adminstration, and a total coindicence that the EU under German leadership started pursuing US tech giants like Facebook, Google with the GDPR and so on at the same time. EDIT: And jailed Volkswagen engineers due to diesel scandal even though their cars are labelled as trucks because they would never ever pass the emission tests that VW and others…
The EU has been giving SV tech the evil eye for the past 25 years by this point.
If you think this started in 2016, you have a short memory.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#29People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.
He was using glyphosate as a weed-killer and getting it on his hands and feet. Way higher levels of exposure than any foods. Also if you're afraid of glyphosate, the Roundup-ready crops are the ones to avoid especially - soy, corn, canola, sugar beets. There's no Roundup-ready wheat, oats, or nuts. (edit: apparently it's used as a desiccant so it winds up in cereals as well - lovely, though still there's no evidence…
Living in eastern europe I have not seen butterflies for decades. Now they seem to be returning a bit.
Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial
#30Just like Dow Chemical and Union Carbide[1] they claim they are not responsible as the acquired only the assets of Monsanto not the liabilities.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster
The MSDS for Roundup is hilarious. It's completely safe, no known health effects, as long as you're wearing a full hazmat suite.
How does its[1] MSDS compare to any other herbicide/pesticide in common use[2]?
All the handling instructions for the them are nearly word-for-word identical. It seems to be a good idea to wear a hazmat suit when you're spraying a field with anything that's supposed to kill weeds.
[1] https://labelsds.com/images/user_uploads/Roundup%20Pro%20Con...
[2] https://labelsds.com/images/user_uploads/Atrazine%204L%20SDS...