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Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Post by UweSchmidt »

tempsy wrote: post #2

People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

Yet another invisible thing invented for substantial benefit and maybe serious harm over a long time; hard to prove cause-and-effect, difficult to protect yourself from, or to know how much you are exposed.

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Post by pokstad »

tempsy wrote: post #2

People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

Isn’t the reason that people get ill from those foods is primarily due to excess calories causing obesity and inflation? Wouldn’t the same thing happen with other foods just as cheap and calorie dense?

Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Post by biosboiii »

LunaSea wrote: post #9

America suddenly suying after Monsanto was bought by a European company, Bayer. What a coincidence!

Also totally a coincidence this started during the protectionist Trump adminstration, and a total coindicence that the EU under German leadership started pursuing US tech giants like Facebook, Google with the GDPR and so on at the same time.

EDIT: And jailed Volkswagen engineers due to diesel scandal even though their cars are labelled as trucks because they would never ever pass the emission tests that VW and others cheated.

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Post by pella »

tempsy wrote: post #2

People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

--> "Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease" (phys.org)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37905251 ( 18 days ago )

Re: Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial

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Post by abeppu »

The idea of punitive damages being awarded to a single person in a situation like this seems unjust on its own. If Roundup is responsible for this person's cancer, it's almost certainly responsible for the cancer of many other people, alive and dead. Clearly I am not a lawyer, but in cases of such a finding, I feel like there ought to be some mechanism to identify an affected class, and make proceeds benefit that class. The alternative seems to be that the first individual plaintiff whose judgement drains the defendant of funds pulls resources from later plaintiffs whose case is just as sound.

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Post by cracrecry »

tempsy wrote: post #2

People look at you like you're crazy if you tell them you avoid oats, grains, nuts that are particularly heavy in glyphosate.

They probably do not have that high concentration on seeds itself. The problem is that it thousands of tons need to be dispersed on the environment and its effect as an antibiotic on big scale.

We have a very important microbiota that are bacteria themselves. The antibiotics on meat and environment can break havoc there, specially for people that work or live near those environments and can breathe or drink the pesticides.

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Post by kristopolous »

sschueller wrote: post #3

Just like Dow Chemical and Union Carbide[1] they claim they are not responsible as the acquired only the assets of Monsanto not the liabilities.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

"We only bought the good parts your honor"
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